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The World Is Too Comfortable with Terror

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The World Is Too Comfortable with Terror
by DAVID FRENCH May 23, 2017

David French is a senior writer for National Review, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute, and an attorney....but don't let that put you off

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... avens-isis

Western countries would rather accept a certain level of threat than do what it takes to mitigate it. Make no mistake, there is an emerging bipartisan consensus that a certain amount of terrorism is just the price we have to pay to live the way we want to live. Now, to be clear, very few people will come out and say this explicitly, and national-security establishments do their best — within certain, limited parameters — to stop every single terror attack, but more than 15 years after 9/11 it’s clear that there are prices our societies aren’t willing to pay. And neither our nation nor any of our European allies is willing to pay the price to reduce the terror threat to its pre-9/11 scale. Consequently, an undetermined number of civilians will die, horribly, at concerts, restaurants, nightclubs, or simply while walking on the sidewalk. It almost certainly won’t be you, of course, but it will be somebody. And they’ll often be kids.

While it’s impossible to predict any given terror attack, there are two laws of terrorism that work together to guarantee that attacks will occur, and they’ll occur with increasing frequency. First, when terrorists are granted safe havens to plan, train, equip, and inspire terror attacks, then they will strike, and they’ll keep striking not just until the safe havens are destroyed but also until the cells and affiliates they’ve established outside their havens are rooted out. Second, when you import immigrants at any real scale from jihadist regions, then you will import the cultural, religious, and political views that incubate jihad. Jihadist ideas flow not from soil but from people, and when you import people you import their ideas.

Let’s look at how these two ideas have worked together in both Europe and America. The map below (from AFP) charts significant terror attacks in Europe (including Turkey).

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You’ll note a significant increase in activity since 2014, since ISIS stampeded across Syria and into Turkey and established a terrorist caliphate in the heart of the Middle East. There existed a safe haven and a population to inspire back in Europe. The result was entirely predictable: What about the United States? A similar phenomenon was in play. This Heritage Foundation timeline of terror attacks and plots documents a total of 95 incidents since 9/11. The numbers are revealing. After the implementation of the (now) much-derided Bush strategy, there were a grand total of 27 terror attacks and plots — almost all of them foiled.

After the end of the Bush administration, the numbers skyrocketed, with 68 plots or attacks recorded since. A number of them, including the Fort Hood shooting, the Boston Marathon bombing, the San Bernardino mass murder, and the Orlando nightclub massacre, have been terrifying successful. Indeed, there have been more domestic terror plots and attacks since the rise of ISIS in the summer of 2014 than there were in the entirety of the Bush administration after 9/11. And make no mistake, jihadist terrorists are disproportionately immigrants and children of immigrants.

What did Bush do that was so successful? He not only pressed military offensives in the heart of the Middle East, he fundamentally changed the American approach to immigration and implemented a number of temporary measures that, for example, dramatically decreased refugee admissions and implemented country-specific protective measures that have since been discontinued. And don’t forget, aside from their reckless immigration policies, our European allies weren’t just beneficiaries of the Bush doctrine but also participants in Bush’s military offensives. Our NATO allies have been on the ground in Afghanistan since the war launched in earnest. Britain was a principal partner in Iraq.

It seems clear that the great Western democracies would rather face an increased terror risk than make the sacrifices that have been proven to mitigate the danger. Here is the bottom line — since the end of the Bush and Blair administrations, it seems clear that all of the great Western democracies would rather face an increased terror risk than make the sacrifices that have been proven to mitigate the danger. There is little appetite across the entire American political spectrum for an increased ground-combat presence in the Middle East. So the slow-motion war against ISIS continues, and terrorist safe havens remain. In the United States, even Trump’s short-term and modest so-called travel ban has been blocked in court and lacks public support.

If you listen closely, you’ll note that some politicians are actually starting to level with their people. They’re not willing to do what it takes to reduce the terror threat to substantially lower levels, so they’re trying to adjust their populations to the new reality. After the Nice truck attack, the French prime minister said, “The times have changed, and France is going to have to live with terrorism.” German chancellor Angela Merkel also told her people that they have to “live with the danger of terrorism.”

All too many Americans, sadly, still seem to labor under the fiction that they can have it all — tolerant immigration policies, no land wars in Asia, and Muslim allies who finally pick up the slack with the right level of prodding and with appropriately minimal air support. When necessary, we can send in our SEAL Team superheroes to take care of the truly tough tasks.

Well, that’s a strategy, but it’s one that means that every few months we’ll put memorial ribbons up on Facebook and Twitter, express pride in our valiant first responders, and wrap our arms around grieving parents who have to close the casket on their eight-year-old girl. It’s a strategy that expresses pride that we foil most attacks, and it’s one that leads us to hope and pray that the losses remain acceptable.

The Western world knows the price it has to pay to decisively reduce the terror threat. It’s no longer willing to pay that price. It’s no longer willing even to let their militaries truly do the jobs they volunteered to do. So there will be more Manchesters, more Parises, more Nices, and more Orlandos. But that’s what happens when we’re not willing to do what it takes. I hope at least our hashtags can make us feel better about our choice.


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Re: The World Is Too Comfortable with Terror

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Typical right-wing warmongering.

The phrase "Trump’s short-term and modest so-called travel ban" is a bit of a giveaway...
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FarleyFlavors wrote:Typical right-wing warmongering.

The phrase "Trump’s short-term and modest so-called travel ban" is a bit of a giveaway...
Yep. And there's little evidence I've seen that the wars in the Middle East, or Afghanistan have had any positive results. Quite the opposite. The rise in ISIS's brand of terrorism can be linked directly to the invasion of Iraq.

The opening paragraph - which is technically correct - subtly sets the scene . There are probably people on both sides of the argument who believe that a certain amount of terrorism is the price we have to pay to live the way we want to live—after all, that has been so for many years. But it is manipulatively put in a way that conservative readers might find that easier to discern if we repeat the paragraph but substitute a few words:

"Make no mistake, there is an emerging bipartisan consensus that a certain number of deaths on the road is just the price we have to pay to live the way we want to live. Now, to be clear, very few people will come out and say this explicitly, and our traffic laws and road policing do their best — within certain, limited parameters — to stop every accident, but more than 100 years after the invention of the motor car, it’s clear that there are prices our societies aren’t willing to pay. And neither our nation nor any other is willing to pay the price to reduce the number of road deaths to its pre-AD 1900 level.

Consequently, an undetermined number of civilians will die, horribly on roads, or simply while walking on the sidewalk. It almost certainly won’t be you, of course, but it will be somebody.

And they’ll often be kids"

While the willingness to adopt some policies even though dead children will result is real, it is also universal; if you favor allowing cars to drive faster than 25 miles per hour, or allowing kids to ride in them, then you are willing to say that a certain amount of deaths are the price we pay to live as we want.

To put it so bluntly is politically incorrect. But to hold the contrary position, that we will pay any price to end road deaths, is intellectually bankrupt and incompatible with the real world we live in. Substitute "terrorism" for road deaths and you get the picture.

And calling those that accept the inevitability of terrorism-related deaths as somehow "uncaring" is disingenuous.

There's a spectrum of benefit versus cost with terrorism......and where we position ourselves on this spectrum is what the debate should be about.

Doing nothing is as unacceptable as eliminating every muslim on the planet - which is the only sure way to prevent the kind of terrorism we're talking about. But we need to make sure that what we do passes a benefit v. cost analysis.
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What a lot of cobblers.

His map says 2014 and earlier and leaves out the IRA, Bader, dozens of attacks in Italy (many by right wingers), the Basques. Most significantly he leaves out the Nazi Norway nutter who killed 80, PLO terrorism in Europe, Black September and so on. The rebellious elements in the French Army (OAS) killed over 200 French citizens in the 60’s. Terrorism against Tito by the Ustasha in the 70’s was widespread and there has been decades of non-ISIS Muslim terror in the Phillipines and in Indonesia. Who could forget the dozens of airline jackings in the 70’s. I could go on and mention all the terror attacks from the late 60’s and 70’s in the US by the Weather Underground, hundreds, Symbionese Army, radical black groups and a range of white nutters from the KKK to the Oklahoma bomber.

His objective is to stir up a strong response. I sometimes wonder whether the objectives of terrorists and right wingers aren’t similar. Spread fear and the need for aggressive action.

Terrorism has been around in Europe, and in the US, for quite a while. When you take a longer view, as his map claims to do, the current crisis, whilst serious, isn't unique. His argument also ignores that the victims of ISIS are overwhelmingly people in the Middle East.

He misleads when he, on the one hand talks of ISIS and on the other asks why was Bush so successful. Bush wasn’t successful against ISIS, it didn’t exist under him and ISIS is a different creature than al Quiada and better at evangelization and western bombing. He’s comparing oranges with lemons and assuming that what worked in the past will work again now with a new and different threat. Not a strong argument for a person who claims to be a lawyer.

His CV states he fought in field Iraq. That doesn’t make you an expert, or even informed on, terror or ISIS. He has no work experience or education relevant to his subject.

The National Review has a track record and its not for balanced reporting, but its very big on making a lot of noise. The National Review Institute is a dime store. His National Review web bio entry is less than truthful when it claims he has written/co-written a book on ISIS. In fact he was one on many contributors to this anthology – based on papers presented to a seminar. The book can’t be up to much its only available on Kindle.

In the National Review he promotes his own book by saying: (it is based) ‘on our long experience defending Israel’s interests before the U.N. and International Criminal Court’. Revealing, but I would have thought irrelevant to an understanding of ISIS.

He and his mates seem big on Christian prayer in US government schools – wonder what their view would be on equal time for Islamic prayers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ ... 26_Justice

It's good he's promoting the book because Amazon list no reviews of it, confirmed by a quick Google search, so I think its true no one has noticed it much – except for a few religious ranters and bloggers. His publishers can’t find anyone who has had anything to say about the book.

Newcastle, You must be very bored to be supping with the devil by reading the National Review. Alternately you just might be broad in your reading. Let’s hope it’s the latter.
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Broad, my dear Hafiz.....broad.

I was fishing for a reaction from the militant tendency on here...but the bait wasn't taken :wi
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We need some middle ground here - Right wing warmongering, left wing Corbynite/Thornberry lets issue our forces with tickling sticks.

In fact, unless grammar demands it, im going to stop referring to comrade Corbyn as "corbynite" it suggests he should be bracketed along with such figures as Thatcher (Thatcherite) & Blair (Blairite) in terms of political/social impact and the dangerous fool doesn't deserve that.
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