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Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:50 pm
by newcastle
Despite overwhelming archaeological evidence, some sad souls still maintain the pyramids were built by aliens.
Maybe the papyrus records detailing certain aspects of the construction will finally lay this myth to rest.
In 2013, a joint team of French and Egyptian archaeologists discovered a remarkable find in a cave at the ancient Red Sea port of Wadi el-Jarf—hundreds of inscribed papyrus fragments that were the oldest ever unearthed in Egypt. As Egyptologists Pierre Tallet and Gregory Marouard detailed in a 2014 article in the journal Near Eastern Archaeology, the ancient texts they discovered included a logbook from the 27th year of the reign of the pharaoh Khufu that described the construction of the Great Pyramid of Giza.
http://www.history.com/news/egypts-olde ... nstruction
Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:37 pm
by Horus
What? and ruin their fantasy

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:01 pm
by newcastle
They'd probably assert that, in addition to clearing off to their home galaxy, far far away, without leaving any evidence of their advanced abilities, they were cunning enough to leave some forged papyrus documents to lead us all astray 5000 years later

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:33 am
by Horus
newcastle wrote:They'd probably assert that, in addition to clearing off to their home galaxy, far far away, without leaving any evidence of their advanced abilities, they were cunning enough to leave some forged papyrus documents to lead us all astray 5000 years later

Yep! that's about it

you can't keep a good alternative theory down

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:35 am
by carrie
Or they could say that those that believe Khufu built the pyramid forged the documents and arranged for them to be found so that their "alien" theory would be de bunked. Yer can't win.

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:09 am
by newcastle
carrie wrote:Or they could say that those that believe Khufu built the pyramid forged the documents and arranged for them to be found so that their "alien" theory would be de bunked. Yer can't win.

Yes...that makes sense
I can picture the poor Egyptians at the time, fed up with having to haul huge stones to and fro, at the behest of tentacled masters from outer space, sitting sipping their beers and cracking whips, thinking :
" Once these buggers have gone, we're gonna write that WE built this bloody pyramid and take all the credit for it"

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:29 am
by John Landon
There is plenty of Alien life here on Earth, and also intelligence that can be classed as Alien. Especially back in those days, and the knowledge was lost as the quality of pyramids declined.
IF you want to take the time to understand "Aliens, UFO's and Angels" then watch and learn...
Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:03 am
by newcastle
Good morning John! You took your time!
John Landon wrote:There is plenty of Alien life here on Earth........
Tell me about it!! I've lived in Egypt for 10 years
IF you want to take the time to understand "Aliens, UFO's and Angels" then watch and learn...
Ermmm.....pass!
I'm a firm believer in Carl Sagan's maxim :
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence !!
Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:19 am
by Dusak
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the way I see it is if you are clever enough to travel light years through space, and, possibly time itself, then it stands to reason that you would be clever enough to cover not only your tracks concerning a possible visit to earth, but your very existence.
Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:46 am
by newcastle
Dusak wrote:...

the way I see it is if you are clever enough to travel light years through space, and, possibly time itself, then it stands to reason that you would be clever enough to cover not only your tracks concerning a possible visit to earth, but your very existence.
And yet.....stupid enough to assemble a pile of rocks on a distant world for no purpose we've yet discovered (unless they had an urge to bury pharaohs in some style

)
Of course it's very convenient for the alien-theorists to maintain that these extra-terrestrials were super shy and unbelievably tidy

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:19 am
by John Landon
you are now self explaining intelligent life, Far more intelligent than Humans en mass in their present state. Not leaving footprints for a very good reason, call it Harmony of you like.... ...
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Remember, history is written by the Victor, and a society and its knowledge can be changed in as little as 40 years. Move 5000 years forward, and we are in a very dark place in comparison.
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For now, but not for long....
"You're sailing softly through the Sun, in a broken Stoneage dawn..."
Pyramids... This is only part of the story.. maybe not exactly right, but close enough for the present level of understanding.
Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:27 am
by newcastle
Not leaving footprints for a very good reason
I've yet to see this "very good reason"
These aliens are such a tease....

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:41 am
by Horus
Or to travel vast distances in space and time to flatten a few corn fields

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:52 am
by newcastle
Horus wrote:Or to travel vast distances in space and time to flatten a few corn fields

When you've mastered space and time...indeed the very essence of the universe...what is there left to do but wind up a few primitive civilisations ?
Jolly good jape....don't you think?

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:00 am
by John Landon
What happened to the Ancient Knowledge, wisdom and power ?
They knew it could be abused.....
Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:16 am
by newcastle
John Landon wrote:What happened to the Ancient Knowledge, wisdom and power ?
They knew it could be abused.....
I'm sorry John
You'll have to do better than the unsubstantiated ramblings of some beardy-weirdy nutter in the bowels of Dendera Temple!
I know I'm wasting my time with this but.....
There are depictions within the temple of Dendera, in the southern crypt, that show a figure holding a lotus, from which emits a snake surrounded by a "protective cocoon", held aloft by a Djed pillar. It is these reliefs that are the primary "evidence" presented by the lamp loonies. No archaeological or textual evidence for any kind of electrical device, or knowledge concerning electricity, has ever been recovered from ancient Egypt.
There are many problems with this device and its depiction. Firstly, the Dendera we see today isn't an Egyptian temple. It's a Greco-Roman building constructed to Egyptian principles of design, built between the 4th century BCE to early centuries CE.[4] As such, the figures depicted with the "lamp", would be existing in the classical, rather than ancient world. The classic writers make no mention of electricity in Egypt.
Note from Newcastle : Actually, the crypts are more ancient than Graeco-Roman....not that this alters the argument much.
Secondly, the accompanying texts are fairly standard texts for the period, and make no mention of the scene being in any way related to lighting.
Thirdly, ancient rulers were inclined to brag. If the Greco-Roman occupiers of Egypt had electrical lighting, they would be sure to trumpet such an achievement somewhere more high profile than the basement of a provincial temple in a distant occupied land. This sort of thing would have the wow-factor you want want to be shown off at the Coliseum back in Rome, or the amphitheaters and libraries of the Hellenistic world. Such a device would be an object of huge prestige and the rulers of the classical world were every bit as aware of the importance of prestige as were the shy, modest and self-abasing Pharaohs whose rule they supplanted.
Finally, if lightbulbs existed in ancient Egypt, why the hell would they make it so damned big?
[edit]The soot (or lack thereof)
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dendera_lamp
Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:10 pm
by Horus
Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:59 pm
by newcastle
Frater's never mentioned light bulbs or electricity in the time of Akhenaton....and he was there!
So it's obviously a myth

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:09 pm
by John Landon
Remember I said about these video's ... "maybe not exactly right, but close enough"
The Lightbulb is symbolic, Notice how it comes out of a Lotus.
The Lotus was a highly powerful hallucinogen, and the Ancients knew how to use these flowers.
The Ancients mastered Magnetic, vibrational and sonic power, along with a few other things we think we know all about.
Electricity is naturally occurring. The Skys are full of it..

Re: Who built the Great Pyramid?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:41 pm
by Horus
Electricity is naturally occurring. The Skys are full of it..
As Benjamin Franklin found out, nearly to his peril
