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No one is safe from Egypt's brutal police.

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Giulio Regeni’s death reminds us no one is safe from Egypt's brutal police.

There is a scene filled with terrifying suspense in the 1995 French film La Haine. Police have detained two young men, having found them to be in possession of a small piece of hashish.

They sit handcuffed to their chairs, side by side, as two cops beat and harass them. A third policeman, who is new to the job, sits and observes. This is a sort of training for him, a demonstration of how to effectively use violence.

“They could be free in two hours, we gotta use our time wisely,” one of the policemen says to his new colleague. “You stay in control the whole time... the hard part is stopping in time, you can’t go too far.”

It has been over a week since Italian student Giulio Regeni’s body was discovered, tortured and broken, off a highway outside Cairo. Reports from Egypt and Italy indicate that he was taken in by police on the night he disappeared, although the Ministry of Interior has denied this.

At a memorial for Regeni in front of the Italian embassy in Cairo, an Egyptian man held up a sign written in Arabic which read “Giulio was one of us, and he died like one of us.” A message of solidarity, but also, an attempt to remind the world that Regeni’s death belies a wider crisis.

For months, Egyptian human rights groups and activists have been speaking out about a marked increase in police brutality in the country.

The Al Nadeem Center for the Rehabilitation of Victims of Violence reported more than 600 cases of torture in 2015. The Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights documented 14 deaths of detainees in a single police station over a two year period.

Enforced disappearances – when individuals are arrested by security forces and then cannot be found for days, weeks or in some cases, years – have also increased.

The victims have included other expatriates. In 2013, a Frenchman and long-time resident of Cairo was also killed in police custody.

Amid so many stories of brutality, Regeni’s death strikes a nerve because he was a foreign visitor to Egypt. Protection from police violence comes not from the law, but from a calculus of privileges tied up with class, race and geography that should have made Regeni – a white European in downtown Cairo – immune to the violence inflicted on Egyptians. This was not supposed to happen to him.

That it did happen, to him and so many others, is a result of years of impunity for a security apparatus trained to break people, with no consequence or accountability to the public.

These are the same security forces allegedly contracted to torture people in Egyptian prisons and barracks as part of an extraordinary rendition program.

Former CIA agent Robert Baer is quoted as saying: “If you want a serious interrogation, you send a prisoner to Jordan. If you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want someone to disappear – never to see them again – you send them to Egypt.” These are the same security forces that killed nearly a thousand people in a single day on 14 August 2013 – and then arrested anybody who dared speak out about it.

The government maintains that cases of torture and police brutality are “exceptions”. Cases against police officers that do make it to court often end in a dismissal of charges or reduced sentences.

Unlike the French policemen in La Haine,these cops can go as far as they want to.

Regeni went missing on 25 January, the fifth anniversary of the 2011 revolution that removed President Hosni Mubarak from office. The trigger of the revolution was police brutality. Protesters burnt nearly 100 police stations to the ground, and rallied around the figure of Khaled Said, a young man who had been beaten to death in custody.

In a grotesque intersection of past and present, the officer in charge of the preliminary investigations into Regeni’s death has a previous conviction: for complicity in the abduction and torture – to death – of an Egyptian man in 2003.

The police force that inspired such rage has gone unreformed, unchanged. No one is safe.

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... are-no-one


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Seems like you don't want to be invited back to Egypt! The police would never be brutal!

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Brian Yare wrote:Seems like you don't want to be invited back to Egypt! The police would never be brutal!

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........and of course Brian, I am sure, like anyone else on this forum, that any information you may give us, will certainly be honest, and as you see it,..........while you are in Egypt. :wi
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Reading through DJKeefy's initial post here, which are not his words, but a highly respected organ in the U.K., it seems they are trying to portray Egypt as a authoritarian regime, surely this can not be so.

I am, as one or two have already commented, a little out of touch with the goings on in that dear country, and the fact that this is the first year, in God knows how many, that my feet will not stand on its soil, though for the life of me can not understand such reports in the world's press, and even occasionally, in the highly respected Egyptian newspaper, Al Ahram.

So, what is the view of the average ex-pat in Luxor ?
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Well don't know if I am an average ex-pat but following my adventure returning from Hurghada I have nothing but praise for the way I was helped and treated by the police. Speak as you find.
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Your discernible irony will fool no one A-Four. ....least of all you know who :))) :))) :)))

I can't speak for the opinion of the average ex-pat.

The sensible ex-pat keeps his own counsel.
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I think so Newcastle...
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A board man suddenly decided to fill in his spare time and make some bullets, when completed he realized that he didn't have a gun, so gave them away to others with guns to fire.
Life is your's to do with as you wish- do not let other's try to control it for you. Count Dusak- 1345.
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Bored Man "D" please. Then I get accused of bad grammar. :lol: Unless of course he was playing Chess at the time!
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I did see it as it posted, but I now call my typo's my 'artistic license.' :up So they stay.
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Good for you, at least everyone knew what you meant... It was just my little joke :lol: Unlike those that like to bring the subject up with malice and accusations. :lol:
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Anyone for Monopoly?

Carpe diem! :le:
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Major Thom wrote:Good for you, at least everyone knew what you meant... It was just my little joke :lol: Unlike those that like to bring the subject up with malice and accusations. :lol:
Iv'e been having a little joke with David Rohl for the last few day's,
until the bas*rd threatened to report me to The Blue Meanies.
End of joke!.....'zilch sense of humour these Alumi.... :cool:
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Now I know that David lives in Spain, if he kept on and I got a truncheon shoved up my 'jasksy
I would have sent in my cousins from Magaluf, to do him.."know what I mean ?... :cool:
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