Another little change to the long term visa laws.

[pinkmagic]

It is a civil ceremony Yildez, but they clearly must still insist to see proof of conversation from a man wishing to marry a Muslim women if he was born non Muslim.
We had to declare our religions and these were noted.

[steigen]

OK I get it now . Its the European man that has to convert if he marries a Muslim lady. Apologies,I was basing it on a European lady marrying a Muslim man! (my own experience)
It must be a huge commitment for any man to do this,in order to marry his loved one.

[Who2]

A pal of mine Steph converted and married a Muslim girl.
He changed his name to Mohammed had a kid and was a great house painter.
On Fridays he was always late for the Mosque, he went covered in paint and no-one battered an eye lid.
Later it was discovered when he married her she was only 15 and from a family of shamutas, the whole family were at it.
The Father went to jail, Steph went to Thailand I think, but the girl whom he married,
her using her sisters name now works as a cleaner in Luxor airport, I still bump into her when leaving.
So beware when marrying anybody.........
Ps: One couldn't make it up.

[carrie]

If a non Muslim man wants to marry a marry Muslim girl and converts to Islam does he have to be circumcised?

[pinkmagic]

I would imagine so Carrie, not for the faint hearted! Perhaps Dusak can enlighten us!

[Yildez]

I believe so!

[newcastle]

It's not compulsory. It's up to the convert.

[DJKeefy]

If a non Muslim man wants to marry a marry Muslim girl and converts to Islam does he have to be circumcised?

You are joking? having a laugh?

I thought circumcision was not mentioned in the Qur'an (so not a religious thing) and was only done for cleanliness

[newcastle]

Circumcision is mentioned several times ( for boys) in the Qur'an. It's recommended but not compulsory.

[DJKeefy]

Circumcision is mentioned several times in the Qur'an. It's recommended but not compulsory.

From the BBC website:

Circumcision is not mentioned in the Qur'an but it is highlighted in the Sunnah (the Prophet Muhammad's recorded words and actions). In the Sunnah, Muhammad stated that circumcision was a "law for men."

Circumcision is not compulsory in Islam but it is an important ritual aimed at improving cleanliness. It is strongly encouraged but not enforced.

[newcastle]

Sorry.....yes, sunnah rather than Qur'an itself.

As an act recommended by Mohammed it's pretty universally followed by muslims. Not that the young boys it's done to have much choice

[carrie]

I can't imagine any Muslim man not following the words of the Prophet.

[newcastle]

I can't imagine any Muslim man not following the words of the Prophet.

Of course not........absolutely

[steigen]

I can't imagine any Muslim man not following the words of the Prophet.

Firstly, no scholar has stated that circumcision is a prerequisite to converting to Islam -- one can definitely become Muslim even if one is not circumcised. As to the question of whether one should get a circumcision after conversion: there is division on this question but most of the scholarly opinions seems to be that it is not required but may be praiseworthy.
Ouch!

[DJKeefy]

I suppose it would be difficult to enforce, I doubt they give papers out at doctors etc. to say you have been circumcised so how could you prove it Maybe they could appoint a new job opportunity for someone: "cock analyser" to check all new converts

[newcastle]

As Jews and most Copts are also circumcised, whipping out the relevant appendage wouldn't say much about your religious affiliation in Egypt!

[Dusak]

I enjoy reading these educational snippets. They tend to be a cut above the usual ones.