Egypt's judges
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Egypt's judges
The independence of the judiciary is a cornerstone of any functioning democracy.
But an Egyptian parliamentary committee has approved a judicial authority draft law which may threaten this.
Egypt's Judges Club, the body representing judges across Egypt, has expressed strong objections to a parliamentary committee passing a new judicial authority draft law that critics say undermines the independence of judiciary.
On Monday, the parliament's constitutional and legislative affairs committee voted in favour of the bill, which gives the president the right to appoint the heads of the country's judicial councils.
The council's move comes despite the fact that the country's State Council, the state advisory body that provides legal advice to the government, advised against the passing of the draft bill.
The move comes as a number of the country's judicial bodies, including the State Council and the Supreme Judicial Council, stressed their rejection of the amended draft law.
Judges against the bill say that putting the final decision of appointing the heads of judicial bodies in the hands of the president would eliminate the independence of the judiciary, making it a pawn in the hands of the executive authority.
Mohamed Hamed El-Gamal, a veteran judge and a former head of Egypt's State Council said that this law would violate the constitutional guarantee of an independent judiciary, and "if ratified there is a very high probability it will be challenged before the higher courts."
However, the senior judge says he expects parliament will pass the law regardless of the objections of the judicial councils.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... -law-.aspx
But an Egyptian parliamentary committee has approved a judicial authority draft law which may threaten this.
Egypt's Judges Club, the body representing judges across Egypt, has expressed strong objections to a parliamentary committee passing a new judicial authority draft law that critics say undermines the independence of judiciary.
On Monday, the parliament's constitutional and legislative affairs committee voted in favour of the bill, which gives the president the right to appoint the heads of the country's judicial councils.
The council's move comes despite the fact that the country's State Council, the state advisory body that provides legal advice to the government, advised against the passing of the draft bill.
The move comes as a number of the country's judicial bodies, including the State Council and the Supreme Judicial Council, stressed their rejection of the amended draft law.
Judges against the bill say that putting the final decision of appointing the heads of judicial bodies in the hands of the president would eliminate the independence of the judiciary, making it a pawn in the hands of the executive authority.
Mohamed Hamed El-Gamal, a veteran judge and a former head of Egypt's State Council said that this law would violate the constitutional guarantee of an independent judiciary, and "if ratified there is a very high probability it will be challenged before the higher courts."
However, the senior judge says he expects parliament will pass the law regardless of the objections of the judicial councils.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... -law-.aspx
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Judges in most countries often have too high of an opinion of themselves and Egypt’s judiciary are not exactly known for their wisdom or impartiality.

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Still smarting from our supreme court's slap down of ministerial overreach are weHorus wrote:Judges in most countries often have too high of an opinion of themselves and Egypt’s judiciary are not exactly known for their wisdom or impartiality.

Egypt's judges are, I agree, renowned for some dingbat decisions. What little impartiality they might have possessed is going down the plughole
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Not smarting at all, just holding the same opinion as I always have with the likes of judges and the House of Lords, the majority of which are too senile and out of touch with reality be holding onto a job well past their sell by date. 


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You forgot to mention - one of them is queer....dreadful!!Horus wrote:Not smarting at all, just holding the same opinion as I always have with the likes of judges and the House of Lords, the majority of which are too senile and out of touch with reality be holding onto a job well past their sell by date.

P.S The ages of our Supreme Court judges range from 60 to 73. If that denotes senility, I'm in trouble

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Oh how strange that their age confers sagacity and the ability to make wise decisions when you are a judge …….. but apparently not if you are in that particular age group when deciding to leave the EU, then it seems we should have left it to the more inexperienced younger voters to decide what is best for us all.The ages of our Supreme Court judges range from 60 to 73.

PS. I thought that they were all queerYou forgot to mention - one of them is queer....dreadful!!


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Horus wrote:Oh how strange that their age confers sagacity and the ability to make wise decisions when you are a judge …….. but apparently not if you are in that particular age group when deciding to leave the EU, then it seems we should have left it to the more inexperienced younger voters to decide what is best for us all.The ages of our Supreme Court judges range from 60 to 73.![]()
Not necessarily sagacity....but perhaps experience .
PS. I thought that they were all queerYou forgot to mention - one of them is queer....dreadful!!
There's nothing wrong with wearing silk stockings, court shoes and a wig to work....I did it all the time![]()
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which of course most 16 years olds are famous for havingNot necessarily sagacity....but perhaps experience .

Far too much informationThere's nothing wrong with wearing silk stockings, court shoes and a wig to work....I did it all the time




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The analogy is the same when talking about who is fit to make a particular decision. 


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Sounds about right
The irony is that they would not be able to do a sketch like that any more because some legal prat would bring an action against them.


The irony is that they would not be able to do a sketch like that any more because some legal prat would bring an action against them.


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