Monuments under dire threat

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Monuments under dire threat

Post by Kevininabydos » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:49 am

Due to the inactivity and lack of coherent leadership monuments are under threat of destruction! The northern end of Amenhotep III Temple on the west bank of Luxor is a prime case. Here the ground water has risen so much due to the neglect of this site since the troubles began that there will be little left unless something is done now to help save it.


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This is what the site looks like now!


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Post by LivinginLuxor » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:40 am

But the pumping station is still working, so I can't see why there is groundwater. I pass the temple quite often (yes, you know where I'm going!) and haven't seen any groundwater in the main temple yet.
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Post by A-Four » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:29 am

Is it just me or are there others on here, this picture that kevin has posted, I can not raise, all I get is a white box with a red cross in it. If I click on to it, nothing happens. This happens, it seems all the time, with all pics from members.

Any suggestions please.

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Post by JOJO » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:43 am

I think that is what you get if you have not logged on A-four, although you can see certain posts you cannot see any photos????
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Post by JOJO » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:47 am

That is shocking Kevin! So sad- they need to get their act together otherwise there will be nothing left for future generations!
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Post by jewel » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:07 am

This is a sad fact.....nothing lasts forever though and all things eventually disappear.


Always turmoil in countries causes destruction, consider the precious buddhas of Bamiyan....blown apart by the taliban.
Consider the many times that the temple in Jerusalem was flattened, finally for good by the Romans in 70 AD. That such artifacts have survived from antiquity is remarkable. But they are fragile as is human society and its governments.

Nature will wreak the greatest destruction of all in the final analysis and like with king canute, no mere mortal can stop this.
I don't have a plan......so nothing can go wrong!

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Post by Who2 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:35 am

Well it's probably the water pipe from Medinet Habu that's leaking, 'not that I'm casting any nasturtiums....'well not much........8)
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Post by Winged Isis » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:21 pm

You can pick 'em and put 'em in your salads dr, both the flowers and the leaves! :P :lol:
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Post by A-Four » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:22 pm

Yer Jo Jo I think you are right, but then again we have to log in to look at this part of the forum?

Now, in recent times, say about 25 years ago September to December, if I remember right, there was always water in this area, to a depth of about one foot. When they started work there, I said they would find nothing..........how wrong I was though.

Over the past five year I have seen serious deteriation at Habou Temple, I know this new drainage system is now in place, but really I have seen no improvement, and look farward to being there soon in the hope that it has in the last six monthes.

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Post by DIANA » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:29 pm

I am very surprised to read that this is what the site looks like now. I was there last week and saw nearly all the monuments covered and no water apparent. Perhaps I was looking in the wrong place.

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Post by Who2 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:35 pm

I knew that old 'doppleganger 'Dr Who had this stills picture from the 196O's, from the film Khartoum..........8)
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Post by A-Four » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:10 pm

The picture is so true which the Dr has put up, its depth was about 12inch or may be 18inch in some places. I could not honestly believe you would be able to find the wonderful things that this team have found in that area.

One should also remember even before the present high dam, during the Winter, one could catch fish with a rod from the back garden gate of the old inspectors office in Carter's time, which now is Sheikh Ali's old hotel, or what ever they call it now, remember though, that was in the days of the old British dam at Asswan.

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Post by Who2 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:56 pm

That's a buffalo in the foreground, so it's a bit more than 18 inches deep, more like 4 feet or 4 hooves, to be precise........8)

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Post by A-Four » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:29 pm

yer true, but like me, you know the land dips around that area, but look near to the plythes, I think you will agree thats about 18ins, but then again you and I don't give a **** anyhow, its under water, and thats enough for us.

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Post by Kevininabydos » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:19 am

Word of this is now hitting the internet [my source was an archaeologist who will remain nameless]. Google translate doesn't do a great job of the translation but anyway here is a link: http://translate.google.co.uk/translate ... d%3D126298

Link found via: http://www.kv64.info/
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Post by LivinginLuxor » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:08 am

Since the drainage was installed, the sacred lake at Habu is more like a sacred puddle, so it is gradually beginning to work.
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Post by Kevininabydos » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:54 am

You keep mentioning Medinet Habu, this is Ramesess III's Temple which is half a mile away; these photo's are of the northern end of Amenhotep III's Temple at Kom el Hattan [also know as Memnon]. Are you deliberately trying to divert attention away from this issue?
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Post by DIANA » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:11 am

It would seem that this flooding has occured in only the past few days and is indeed a tradgedy for all the hard work of some of the finest archeologist in Egypt. When I was there last week there appeared to be some workers on site as there was a large tent errected at the far end of the temple site. I hope they can solve this problem quickly and that minimum damage has been done.

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Post by BBLUX » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:48 am

We went out there yesterday and checked over the complete site most carefully.
There is NO ground water or flooding anywhere to be seen. We checked the deep excavated pits and even at 2 meters below the local ground level they were completely dry! We then looked along the line of the drainage pipe to the west end of the site heading towards the Ramusseum pumping house. Completely dry there as well.
The only possibility for that picture was to the far side (north) in the area of the recent excavations near the Toth statues but we could not venture in that area as it is an active site and too far from the road to see clearly. However, if the water was there it would have certainly been apparent on the main site.
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Post by Kevininabydos » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:58 am

Kevininabydos wrote:these photo's are of the northern end of Amenhotep III's Temple at Kom el Hattan
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