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Be careful what's on your phone in Egypt...

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Be careful what's on your phone in Egypt: lawyers warn of police inspections.

Mohamed was going to the Heliopolis Sporting Club on Apr. 25th, a day which coincided with the second wave of protests against the transfer of two disputed Red Sea islands to Saudi Arabia, when police stopped him and demanded his phone.

Comical photographs of Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, dressed as a superhero, adorned with flowers, and given the wings of an angel, saved Mohamed, who preferred not to use his real name, from arrest that day.

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Located in the upscale Cairo neighbourhood of Heliopolis, the club is very close to Mohamed's home. "I walk there all the time," he told Aswat Masriya. Mohamed planned to spend the day with his friend, far from the protests taking place in Giza. He waited for his friend in front of a nearby mosque so that they could walk there together.

"I hadn't even been waiting for five minutes," he said explaining how his short wait was interrupted by a man dressed in civilian clothing who "kept asking questions."

"I live here," Mohamed told the man.

"Show me your national ID card. Show me your mobile phone. What are you doing here? Who are you waiting for?" the policeman in plainclothes spurted orders and questions at Mohamed.

Confused by what he saw in Mohamed's phone, the low-ranking officer took Mohamed to another police officer, who was dressed in uniform and surrounded by "men wearing black."

The officer proceeded to look through Mohamed's photo gallery, even after Mohamed told him that there were some private photographs, "then he saw all the photographs of Sisi."

A display of Sisi-mania, photographs of Sisi with hearts, angels and horses, super hero capes, red laser beams glowing out of his eyes surprised the officer scrolling through Mohamed's phone gallery.

"The day before, I had downloaded a lot of exaggerated photos from pages like 'for the love of Sisi' and stuff, it was all for humour," he explained to Aswat Masriya, "I was making fun of them."

Mohamed began to panic, "what's wrong? I am only going to the club."

"Why do you have all these photographs?"

"I am a fan of the president," Mohamed lied, the officer laughed, and thankfully, Mohamed managed not to get arrested.

Ragia Omran, one of the lawyers in the Front of Defence for Egyptian Protesters, told Aswat Masriya that "nothing in the law stipulates that they [the police] have the right to do that."

Usually, the people that the police inspect are "not caught red-handed, they are taken arbitrarily. There were no protests in downtown that day anyway," Omran said, referring to the arbitrary arrests that took place before and on Apr. 25, when various political movements and parties announced they would protest "the sale of Egypt."

Demonstrations on Apr. 15 and Apr. 25 included chants against the police, the regime, military rule, and against Egypt's maritime border agreement stipulating that the Red Sea islands of Tiran and Sanafir fall within Saudi Arabia's territorial waters.

A campaign of mass arrests saw even wider securitization of public spaces, with security forces arresting scores of people, from cafes and from their homes, days before protests were due to take place. Freedom for the Brave, one of the groups that provides support for detainees, reported that over 300 were arrested, before and during Apr. 25.

Activists and social media users, while frightened, still poked fun at the ongoing campaign of raids and detentions, joking, "guys please do not go home, or visit anybody, or be in the streets, or sit at a cafe."

Mohamed Youssef, the assistant interior minister for transportation police, told Aswat Masriya that he ordered security forces to widen the "circle of suspicion," which meant that security forces would tighten measures on buses, metro stations, and trains.

Security forces also took up the habit of stopping people and inspecting them arbitrarily. In fact, various social media users shared testimonies of police stopping microbuses, and looking through the phones of the passengers. They also testified to seeing people being taken and not coming back, and to police interrupting their journeys to university campuses to poke around their belongings.

This intensifying police practice of rummaging through peoples' phones often harms pedestrians who are not politically affiliated. "Sometimes photos and posts just show up on people's Facebook pages," Omran said elaborating that people find themselves facing politicised charges on that basis alone.

In fact, the practice also puts those on the list of phone contacts, or a person's "Facebook friends", in danger as well. Mohamed may have been able to get away with his Sisi fandom photographs, but he fears his name might have been listed with the police after another incident of police inspection of his friend's phone.

Mohamed's friend was also stopped by the Behooth metro station in Giza to get his phone searched by the police. Whilst going through Facebook, the police saw a post Mohamed had made, in which he commented on "the oppressive state." Police took note of his name. A case in point, Mohamed says.

When asked specifically about the habit, a security source denied that police look though citizens' phones or laptops, adding that private Facebook pages are not monitored and that there is no surveillance.

According to Amnesty International, Egyptian state security has a history of monitoring electronic communications while many activists “have also been arrested and prosecuted for content they have posted on social media.”

Egypt also blocked Facebook Inc’s Free Basics Internet service, which is aimed at low-income customers, after the company refused to allow the government access to spy on users, Reuters reported in early April.

Source: http://en.aswatmasriya.com/news/details/16789


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Re: Be careful what's on your phone in Egypt...

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Surely with out identification by the person asking, you are not obliged to show your identity card. Your phone is your own private property. Would you offer your phone to a stranger in the streets of London. In fact without being in full Police uniform, you are not obliged to stop for anyone, either in your car or on foot. You could be giving up information to anyone, and that is dangerous.
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Surprisingly enough you don't live in England where as far as I know national identity cards are not essential, they are here and must be produced if the police request to see them. Even if they are in plain clothes.
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carrie wrote:Surprisingly enough you don't live in England where as far as I know national identity cards are not essential, they are here and must be produced if the police request to see them. Even if they are in plain clothes.
It's a well known fact, supported by numerous posts, that MT lives in cloud cuckoo land.

The police in Egypt, often identifiable only by the fact they are carrying a gun, have , in practice (if not in theory), absolute power over individual citizens (and foreigners for that matter).

If you're stopped and questioned, asked to empty your pockets, hand over your phone or , in fact, do anything demanded of you by the policeman then failure to comply is very likely to result in your being hauled off to the police station with unknown, and possibly highly unpleasant, consequences.

Demanding the officer's name, identity card, appropriate paperwork or questioning his authority in any way, by act or demeanour, is only likely to make your predicament that much worse.

Egyptian citizens carry their ID cards with them at all times, Foreigners are required to carry their passports, although, in practice, a copy may suffice. Not having ID, if you're a foreigner, may also result in a trip to the police station.
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Re: Be careful what's on your phone in Egypt...

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How can that be? How do you know that person in the grubby gelebaya is a true Police Officer and not a person trying to rob you under false pretences.
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You kick up a fuss ask for their ID, give them a smack for trying to rob you. Not forgetting that they all carry guns then you find out in your own little way that they are police. Good luck.'
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Re: Be careful what's on your phone in Egypt...

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This is a very worrying warning as I have a lot of pussy pic's on my phone. Bob and Alfie. I'd hate to have to delete them for fear of prosecution.
Life is your's to do with as you wish- do not let other's try to control it for you. Count Dusak- 1345.
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If like others you decide to change your name Dusak you could always come back as Mrs. Slocum.
Looked at my little puss today when I got home, fast asleep on his back, legs wide open was just going to take a pic when up he jumped and attacked my bag. He was just lulling me into a sense of false security.
I have decided he is not a full 100% feline, kangaroo got in there somehow, he seems unable to walk, just jumps around.
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Re: Be careful what's on your phone in Egypt...

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And I have Kylie's "Agent Provocotuer" on mine..... :lol:
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