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Breast cancer.

Post by Scottishtourist » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:32 pm

I've had a very anxious week and only now feel able to talk about it with fellow forum members.

Two weeks ago I was invited to go along to mobile unit for my first breast screening.In UK all women over age of 50 are offered this every three years.I had no issue with going along.In fact I found the whole process relatively painless.Each breast is "squashed"between x-ray plates and images are taken.I didn't find it uncomfortable in the slightest(despite the horror stories I'd been told about it!)Reckon I've been "groped"more roughly,lol!!

One week later(last Saturday)I got letter in post.The x-ray was "unclear"and I was being recalled to West of Scotland National Screening Centre for further examination.

I was totally gob-smacked.Why me?What had they found in original mammogram?

I attended yesterday.Had further 3 mammograms,then physical examination and ultrasound on left breast.I was attended to by a specialist breast-care nurse,a senior radiographer,and two Consultant Radiologists.The "lump"on original mammogram was diagnosed as benign breast tissue..the relief was overwhelming!!I skipped back to work on "cloud nine."

A couple of other women in waiting room with me were not so fortunate.They received bad news.My thoughts and prayers are with them today.

I'd done some reading on internet about recalls and breast screening.Had read that in other countries that this is not "routine"..in fact it can be an expensive procedure for some women.

Does anyone wish to share their experiences of it?

I will re-iterate.God bless our "grand old lady"the NHS.
In two weeks I have gone from despair to euphoria!!It's just wonderful,the best feeling ever!

I hate criticism of the NHS.My clinical appointment took 3 hours because they were short of ONE doctor.

For anyone who "slags"off our wonderful NHS...just remember that this is not due to a lack of expertise,dedicated professionals or dis-interest.
It is due a lack of funding by Government and that is the whole reason we continue to work our asses off,pay our NI contributions.. and fight to improve it!



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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by LovelyLadyLux » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:10 pm

I think, for a woman, nothing can strike fear faster than a call back after a routine mammogram and the fearful thoughts that all fly through the mind while all the tests are being conducted can incrementally mount whilst not knowing what the diagnosis is going to be.

For me it was stereotactic biopsies (extremely painful) with the implanting of titanium chips in the breast so everything could be easily relocated every few month to determine how the lumps/bumps were progressing. Definitely not fun, time stretched interminably. It was the not knowing that preyed upon my soul the most and my own inability to do anything to know what the final outcome would be.

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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by Brian Yare » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:24 pm

Scottishtourist wrote:
For anyone who "slags"off our wonderful NHS...just remember that this is not due to a lack of expertise,dedicated professionals or dis-interest.
It is due a lack of funding by Government and that is the whole reason we continue to work our asses off,pay our NI contributions.. and fight to improve it!
This is down to people in the medical sector having inflated ideas about their own worth. The government pays more than enough. Doctors are not that different to other professionals. :dv

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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by Scottishtourist » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:33 pm

You know something LLL?
I now have denture with one tooth in mouth!I was heartbroken that this was only option available to me!

I spoke with my friends in work about it!They laughed!

One of them told me that a dentist can diagnose,treat,and take away pain in 10 minutes!

But a DOCTOR is different!They can tell you many things!

Thank you for sharing your experience,and I wish you well.

Was the diagnosis and treatment expensive?Was it covered by healthcare insurance?Or was it "routine?"

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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by Dusak » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:49 pm

Its hard enough to live for the short term worry that you endured ST, but when the diagnosis is finely confirmed as positive, then it is not just the patent that it hits, but the whole family and friends. My mother was one of those having to have a full mastectomy. They caught it just in time and without the NHS she would of died a lot earlier than she did. Perhaps Mr. Yare, your opinion would differ if it where a member of your own immediate family.
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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by Brian Yare » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:52 pm

Dusak wrote:Perhaps Mr. Yare, your opinion would differ if it where a member of your own immediate family.

Dusak

I was replying to the statement by ST about the NHS. I wish her well and am glad that she has a good prognosis.

The Medical Service, along with the rest of the "Public Sector" are overpaid. IMHO of course!

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Post by LovelyLadyLux » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:01 pm

Was the diagnosis and treatment expensive?Was it covered by healthcare insurance?Or was it "routine?"
The initial lump was caught at a routine screening and I was covered via workplace health insurance via an "HMO" (Health Maintence Organization) in the USA. Most HMOs typically have bad reps as they are huge corporations offering health insurance and decisions made are not necessarily in favour of the patient. The one I belonged to was great IMO.

For the surgery I had a $500 co-pay which was my responsibility to pay as cash upfront. Insurance covered everything else and insurance premiums were taken off my salary.

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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by Scottishtourist » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:19 pm

Brian Yare wrote:
Dusak wrote:Perhaps Mr. Yare, your opinion would differ if it where a member of your own immediate family.

Dusak

I was replying to the statement by ST about the NHS. I wish her well and am glad that she has a good prognosis.

The Medical Service, along with the rest of the "Public Sector" are overpaid. IMHO of course!
Shame on you Brian!
How dare you?

Are you aware that most "private"Consultants and nurses are NHS employees?
This is sideline for them?Big bucks?

You will not receive any better care in Private sector.You may well receive it in more pleasant surroundings,and faster!
But the prognosis will be the same whether you are "private"or NHS.

Don't matter to me,my wages will be paid whatever!
But..overpaid?
You're jokin,ain't you?
Could double,triple my money if I moved to private sector or Dubai!

Ain't gonna do it!

Public sector?Jesus..I'm gonna be workin til I'm 67 before I can even think about retiring!
Think on...then criticize!

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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by HEPZIBAH » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:22 pm

You'll get no arguments from me about the value of the National Health Service in the UK.

I discovered a breast lump when in my late 20's. After a needle biopsy it was decided best to remove the lump. Thankfully I needed no further treatment, just regular check ups and now mammograms. My mother unfortunately was not so fortunate and developed breast cancer, had to have invasive surgery which bought her only about three more years before secondary cancers were discovered and she was unable to fight.

Since 29th November 2014, when I slipped and broke my shoulder in more than one place I have had:
Accident & Emergency (minimum) 5 xrays on shoulder and arm
Trauma & Orthopaedic clinic - 2 consultant's appointments each with xrays, another appt next week.
Physiotherapy -4 appointments and another one next week.
Bone Density Scan
Ultra Sound on Liver, Kidneys and Spleen - because of discomfort following fall
Numerous blood tests
General Practioner - rang me two days after my accident to ask if I was OK and was there anything they could do for me. (Feint) Have since seen her 4 times as she ties everything up together and manages my overall health.

I am so grateful that we do have an NHS in the UK and dread the day we lose it. There may be lots of things wrong with it but there is also so much good that has come out of it and, to be frank, if many of us had to pay for the services and treatment we've had with the NHS...we'd be dead.
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Post by Once bitten » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:23 pm

HEPZIBAH wrote:You'll get no arguments from me about the value of the National Health Service in the UK.

I discovered a breast lump when in my late 20's. After a needle biopsy it was decided best to remove the lump. Thankfully I needed no further treatment, just regular check ups and now mammograms. My mother unfortunately was not so fortunate and developed breast cancer, had to have invasive surgery which bought her only about three more years before secondary cancers were discovered and she was unable to fight.

Since 29th November 2014, when I slipped and broke my shoulder in more than one place I have had:
Accident & Emergency (minimum) 5 xrays on shoulder and arm
Trauma & Orthopaedic clinic - 2 consultant's appointments each with xrays, another appt next week.
Physiotherapy -4 appointments and another one next week.
Bone Density Scan
Ultra Sound on Liver, Kidneys and Spleen - because of discomfort following fall
Numerous blood tests
General Practioner - rang me two days after my accident to ask if I was OK and was there anything they could do for me. (Feint) Have since seen her 4 times as she ties everything up together and manages my overall health.

I am so grateful that we do have an NHS in the UK and dread the day we lose it. There may be lots of things wrong with it but there is also so much good that has come out of it and, to be frank, if many of us had to pay for the services and treatment we've had with the NHS...we'd be dead.
I also am grateful for our NHS In any other country I would have died in 2009, but the skill and dedication of all the staff at Hillingdon hospital saved me. I was an in patient for four months, had three major operations and, my first full spell of chemo to control the cancer I have. So Brian I think you should shut the F*** up. :x :x :x
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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by Brian Yare » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:48 pm

I have nothing against the NHS. They do a good job. But there are a lot of people in the NHS who are on excessive salaries. Should a doctor be on £250,000 a year even if that includes his surgery and staff? A salary about the same as an MP (and check the expenses) would be reasonable. £75,000 or thereabouts.

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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by Bullet Magnet » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:14 pm

Doctors are just overpaid sales reps for the Pharmaceutical companies.
I have had many medical blunders happen to me by Doctors, and even been lied to by a consultant surgeon, until I pointed out the bleeding obvious to him which left him red faced in embarrassment as the penny dropped while he tried to blind me with his Latin...

It's the Nurses we need, and a lot more understanding of the human mind.

research the placebo effect.. Fascinating stuff !!! :cool:
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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by Glyphdoctor » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:16 pm

Brian-I can't speak about salaries in the UK, but you have studied Egyptology and so you know that hieroglyphs are a little more difficult than the average thing to learn. However, I am married to a doctor and I can tell you I couldn't even imagine how one would be able to master all the information they need to learn, keep it in their mind all the time, and then apply it in practice. 850 hieroglyphs is nothing compared to 850 drugs and all the illnesses they have to be used for just as a single example and then add to it diagnosing the illnesses that are needed for those drugs and deciding what the specific dosage should be for your case. And people's lives and well-being depend on what you do.

And the vocabulary, I've been editing my husband's masters' thesis lately and even after installing a 100,000 plus word medical dictionary in Microsoft Word there STILL are medical terms that aren't in it that are getting marked wrongly as misspelled. Unless you have spent time with a doctor, or are one, you can't even begin to imagine the level of knowledge and comprehension it requires.

Back in the 90s, I worked on the first ever project to scan Egyptology books and put them online, actually one of the first book scanning projects ever, and even then I am sorry to say that it was child's play compared to medicine. It's almost mindless really. So if you think you should be earning the same as a doctor for it, that's just nonsense.

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Re: Breast cancer.

Post by HEPZIBAH » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:59 pm

HEPZIBAH wrote:You'll get no arguments from me about the value of the National Health Service in the UK.

I discovered a breast lump when in my late 20's. After a needle biopsy it was decided best to remove the lump. Thankfully I needed no further treatment, just regular check ups and now mammograms. My mother unfortunately was not so fortunate and developed breast cancer, had to have invasive surgery which bought her only about three more years before secondary cancers were discovered and she was unable to fight.

Since 29th November 2014, when I slipped and broke my shoulder in more than one place I have had:
Accident & Emergency (minimum) 5 xrays on shoulder and arm
Trauma & Orthopaedic clinic - 2 consultant's appointments each with xrays, another appt next week.
Physiotherapy -4 appointments and another one next week.
Bone Density Scan
Ultra Sound on Liver, Kidneys and Spleen - because of discomfort following fall
Numerous blood tests
General Practioner - rang me two days after my accident to ask if I was OK and was there anything they could do for me. (Feint) Have since seen her 4 times as she ties everything up together and manages my overall health.

I am so grateful that we do have an NHS in the UK and dread the day we lose it. There may be lots of things wrong with it but there is also so much good that has come out of it and, to be frank, if many of us had to pay for the services and treatment we've had with the NHS...we'd be dead.
:oops: And if that list wasn't long enough, I omitted the 'on topic' appointment - a routine, but timely mammogram on 24th December. I say timely because as well as my history requiring that I am 'breast aware' I also suffered bruising and swelling to my breast and chest area when I had my accident in the shower on 29/11.

Later on Christmas eve I was more than happy to be part of a group that went around the hospital carol singing - one visit that I was there by invitation, not by necessity. :)
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Post by LovelyLadyLux » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:09 pm

@ Hepzibah or ST - under NHS are there annual limits? Is there a cap on insurance in any areas? And aside from your regular premiums do you have to chip in for anything extra? i.e. when I had surgery in the USA under my insurance plan I had to pay the first $500 and I think Canada now has a version of this that there is a fee for some procedures. Usually this fee isn't high but it is there.

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Post by HEPZIBAH » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:24 pm

LovelyLadyLux wrote:@ Hepzibah or ST - under NHS are there annual limits? Is there a cap on insurance in any areas? And aside from your regular premiums do you have to chip in for anything extra? i.e. when I had surgery in the USA under my insurance plan I had to pay the first $500 and I think Canada now has a version of this that there is a fee for some procedures. Usually this fee isn't high but it is there.
No, as far as I'm aware if you need treatment you receive it. We pay £8-05 per medicines prescribed by our general practitioner but if you are receiving medicines in hospital they are free.

All my treatment, and there has been far too much unfortunately, over the years has been under the NHS, to which I contribute to via the National Insurance contributions which are taken as a percentage from salary at source. I don't know about private insurance as I have never had to make an claims.

As I said earlier, if it had been necessary for me to pay for treatments I've had there is no way I could afford it and quite simply would be dead by now.
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Post by Scottishtourist » Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:59 pm

Hepzibah has basically said it the way it is in UK.

We are entitled to "free"NHS care..and it is funded by our NI contributions.Even if you are unemployed,a pensioner,on benefits,and not paying NI contributions..you will still receive the treatment.
There are certain criteria however that should be satisfied.This is mainly to do with length of residency in UK,proof of citizenship,etc,etc.

Private treatment is available at a cost.Insurance companies offer Healthcare policies which can be purchased and premiums paid on a monthly basis.

There is no consultation charge to see an NHS GP.

In Scotland we do not pay for drugs either.(if they are prescribed by NHS.)
Our prescription charges have been "set"to zero.
They have NOT been abolished,as some may think!

The charge could be re-instated and re-introduced at any time.

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