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Post by Dusak » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:31 am

After a very good holiday arrived back Sunday morning, but have to say a ten hour flight is not recommended at my age, especially attempting to get some shut eye. But the flights and connections went well with the exception of being interviewed by Thai immigration for twenty minutes as they were making their minds up as to whether my UK passport was genuine or a fake. I've had similar problems the last two times with Egyptian passport control, so don't know what it could be down to.

As is common knowledge, Pattaya is a sex tourist industry, but not a thing that spoiled my time there, each to their own. The city is a vibrant collection of sounds, colors, aromas and people, all contributing to a fabulous time. Local transport to anywhere in the city is cheap, the local Baht buses at the equivalent of 1Le, just stick out your hand for it to stop, ring one of the many buzzers on the roof to stop. Motorbike taxis are popular at around 50Le anywhere in the city, but local taxis are quite expensive.

The international shopping malls are fantastic to visit, all air conditioned, all having top quality restaurants and various other food and drink outlets at more than affordable pricing. The local shops are also good for mooching around, the sellers quite happy to barter the price. All in all a very polite people to deal with.

The first three weeks I decided to spend exploring the city itself, and of course enjoyable walks along the extensive beach road, with the intention of using the remaining week for some site seeing trips, three of which I paid for. But unfortunately on the Saturday I came down with a very severe ear infection that kept me room bound for the last week, no sleep, could't eat and living off painkillers. Unlike here you can not just walk into a pharmacy and get antibiotics over the counter. To cap it all the day after I got home I developed a bad chest infection which has now cleared up, but has ended up turning into a cold.

I met some really good people while there, both expats and holidaymakers which helped make those first three weeks really enjoyable for me. I do think though that four weeks was to long, although enjoyed the break from this place. I intend returning next year, but for a shorter stay.

I had a two case allowance, but only took one which weighed in at 14kilo at the airport which surprised me as I took everything I needed, so bought another case while there and brought back loads of goodies, plus three terabytes of 130 new films plus 140 TV shows, so plenty to watch over the winter months. The TV programs suck just as much over there as they do here, constant repeats.

But be warned if your into vaping and intend to visit Thailand, there is zero tolerance to them and their component parts. Up to 100,000 Baht fine [average 42Baht to the £] and or five years in prison. Cigs are the same price as here, maybe a tad cheaper. And English ale a plenty at around £4.50 a pint. The only downside is the very high humidity, three changes of clothes per day, but the local laundry shops are very cheap and do a nice ironing service as well.

I was happy to touch down onto Luxor soils, I missed my home and cats, but the same old shite that I had left was waiting to greet me as I exited the airport. My taxi driver had been told by my friend to pick me up at 9am, he was over half an hour late leaving me the only one stood outside with my cases, which drew the attention of the police who came over and asked me what I was doing standing there. I told them My taxi was late, but no, they had to tell me to start walking towards the main exit point as I was a security threat. I was on the road itself when he turned up, his excuse was he was waiting for me to phone him, my friend not good enough. When arriving home, she was waiting on the front step with a cup of much needed tea, god bless her, she had looked after my home and cats while I was away. Once inside she tells me that my taxi driver had asked her to ask me to lend him 1,000Le for insurance for his taxi, good job he didn't ask me while taking me home, needless to say he didn't get it.

The next day I had to go to the bank as my fridge freezer had blown up the day before I left. Same crap in there. I signed the form, they studded the signature, was not happy with it so I had to sign again, still not happy with it so had to sign a third time. Part of the money was 5,000 in 50Le notes, so once having chosen the unit I wanted, chose to use these with some of the 200Le notes they had given me. Now we all know how bad the Egyptian notes tend to be, but these 50's were so bad the shopkeeper refused them. They were in two half's, had many sellotape strips holding them together, had large chunks missing. So I had to go back to the bank to change them, the guy just grinned at me as he told my friend I had mistakenly been given notes destined to be destroyed in Cairo, so why were they in the counter dispensing tray? And to cap it all, street beggars at every stop off I made, reaching into the taxi window shoving their grimy paws under my nose, not taking no for an answer.

But looking on the bright side, my friend had found a new electric goods outlet in Television street, its on a corner next to a shop selling Sharp A/C units, you go up the red carpeted stairs next to it. I bought a large Zanussi no frost fridge freezer with five year guarantee for 3,500Le cheaper that B-Tek. Their A/C's are far cheaper as well.


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Post by Ruby Slippers » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:39 am

Wow! That month went quick! Welcome home, Dusak. :up

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Post by HEPZIBAH » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:40 am

Welcome back Dusak. Can't believe how fast that month has gone.

Sounds like you have had an interesting time. I hope your cats forgive you for your absence.

You have my sympathy regarding the ear infection. I've suffered to one degree or another with one for most of the summer. It started at Easter and it's only in this last month that I've felt really clear of it. I had to cancel many plans, including a trip to Morocco and a UK holiday. All very depressing. I hope your ear infection has fully healed and does not come back.
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Post by John Landon » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:45 am

Welcome Back Dusak. Glad you had a fabulous time for the most part.. :up

Weirdly enough I had a dream last night that you had come back and posted but changed your Avatar...

We are looking to head East for our major vacation next year, but still not decided where. China, Vietnam, Cambodia, India, Japan...
if the gods were to smile down upon us and furnish us with that elusive pot of gold, we could retire early and do the lot.... 8)

Those well earned breaks pass so quickly... Give it a couple of days and it will be like you have never been away.. :D

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Post by Horus » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:41 am

Welcome back Dusak, looking forwards to reading more of your Asian adventures when you have the time to write them up. :up
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Post by carrie » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:50 am

It is nice to be back home isn't it Dusak, I had a fabulous time in Turkey but still I was glad to return to the dirty old town. The humidity in Turkey was also very high and although not so hot as Luxor I found it very debilitating, sweat here dries quickly but in the humidity just lingers and makes you feel hotter.
Getting a little cooler here especially at night so I am sure sure you will soon feel the benefits, Let us know sometime where the new electrical shop is meanwhile take it easy relax and recover.

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Post by Winged Isis » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:03 pm

Welcome back. Glad you had a good time.

It's always a good idea to take some broad-spectrum antibiotics with you, plus a script for more. Experienced travellers have these high on their packing list. I never travel without some.
Having the meds with you means you can take action immediately you realise you need them, as it may take some time to get them when travelling, meaning you suffer longer unnecessarily. You may not be able to use that script, but it can make it easier to explain what you need.
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Post by Dusak » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:19 am

On every street corner in Pattaya food sellers are manning their motorbike side stalls. The selections of freshly cooked foods are vast, fish, meats, local stir fried dishes, rice and the local favorite cold dish, sticky rice wrapped in banana leaf with a seasoned dip..... and insects. They eat deep fried scorpions, grubs as big as your thumb, smaller maggot sized ones, ants and crickets. I was egged on to buy some small grubs and crickets. The grubs tasted like what I would have imagined grubs would taste like before they entered my mouth, grubs. The crickets had little or no taste and were quite crunchy, but second helpings were passed. The staff tore into them with relish. As I sat at the bar recovering from the stomach churning ordeal with a pint of cider, a new mate of mine, Glen, looked at me and laughed, informing me that I had a cricket leg sticking out of the gap in my front teeth. I have photos which my friend refuses to look at.
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Post by Major Thom » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:55 pm

Missed your posts D, net question when are you moving? :lol: :lol:

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Post by HEPZIBAH » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:52 pm

Winged Isis wrote:Welcome back. Glad you had a good time.

It's always a good idea to take some broad-spectrum antibiotics with you, plus a script for more. Experienced travellers have these high on their packing list.
As a reasonably experienced traveller, I have to say that I have never had antibiotics high on my packing list. Even if I had thought about them, they are not a medication you buy over the counter in the UK and I know there is no way my GP would prescribe them for me on the off chance I may (or may not) need them on holiday.
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Post by Winged Isis » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:29 pm

They are not over-the-counter here either. A script for them is recommended on any suggested list of basics to pack that I've ever seen.

I ask for a script with one repeat. Having chronic sinusitis and sometimes subsequent chest infections, there's no problem. If unneeded during my vacation, I give thanks and tear it up.

If you don't have any similar history, any experienced doctor should understand a request for a script for one course if it's for travel, especially to "exotic" parts. I never had any trouble getting one in the years I travelled before I developed sinusitis.
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Post by Dusak » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:38 am

There are thousands of bars lining all streets in Pattaya, most have at least one pool table, most bar girls being excellent players. They can play match standards to keep the more seasoned tourist players happy with a good game, or are professional enough to hang back to allow the more novice players a ''sporting chance'' of winning. Their job is to keep the customer entertained and happy. Considering how most of these girls are scantily clad, most are happy with or without a pool cue in their hands. Nearly all bar girls can be 'bar fined' by a customer, usually for around 350/450 Baht, [42-£] You can then take her out of the bar for the night, walking around or for a meal or visiting other bars. She would expect at least 1.000 Baht for this escort time, ranging from 4/6 hours, plus of course her food and drinks. The original bar fine is split 50/50 between her and the bar owner. Lady drinks as they are called, when buying a bar girl a drink are usually at set prices dependent on the bar. My bar where I stayed charged 110Baht, but the average cost is 160Baht, the girl getting half. You can, with negotiation, have what they call short time sex, or long time with most bar girls, but there are many that refuse this service. My home bar was one of a handful that stipulated that no girl was available for hire while working, a rule that they adhered to. Short time, maximum two hours would cost between 1,500-2,500 dependent on the girls looks, figure age and earning capacity in her bar. Long time was the full night and an overstay at the punters hotel room. This costs anything up to 6,000 Baht. Nearly all hotels and guest houses allow 'guest' visitors into their guests rooms as long as they register their ID details at reception as they enter. A lot of these places though will not allow ladyboy guests. Unfortunately my guest house did, a fact that I only discovered while meeting an escorted ladyboy on the stairs when retiring for the night. Nothing against this, but they do tend to be a bit noisy shall we say lol. There are loads of what are called short time rooms available all over the place where you can take your girlfriend for a private session, costing on average 350 Baht for two hours. I have to say that the law requires monthly STD check ups for all involved in the sex industry, they carrying a card with them showing they are 'up to date' if stopped by the police. The legal age of consent is 18.

In answer to MT's question as to when am I moving there, it is indeed an easy going lifestyle, affordable, fully furnished apartment long term for £120 per month, with visa renewals very easy and straight forwards to obtain, but not for me, I'm still perfectly happy here in the dust bowl.
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Re: I'm back

Post by carrie » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:38 pm

How many Bhat to the pound Dusak?

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Post by BENNU » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:25 pm

:a28: Welcome home!
Dusak wrote: The original bar fine is split 50/50 between her and the bar owner. Lady drinks as they are called, when buying a bar girl a drink are usually at set prices dependent on the bar. My bar where I stayed charged 110Baht, but the average cost is 160Baht, the girl getting half.

Owners of bars where I did not have to buy my own drinks used to suggest that I let men buy me drinks and I would get 100% of the price. If I ordered whisky, they would serve black tea, Jägermeister would be coffee shots and I could get sweet milky substitutes for Piña Colada etc.
:sd I suddenly understood that when men in night clubs smelled my drink before toasting with me, it wasn't to make sure that I got proper scotch, but I may have been suspected of "working" there.
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They said that it was only in order to make the men get drunk and spend more. That was how I was introduced to the term "Lady drinks", but back then I was still a lady and did not return to those places, alhamdulilah.

I have also been offered free drinks for myself and any girlfriends at outdoor cafés anytime, just to attract costumers, but too shy to accept. They are about to open what looks like a very nice café in my building with outdoor serving - perhaps I should try to get a deal ...

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Post by Dusak » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:31 am

carrie wrote:How many Bhat to the pound Dusak?
Its continually going up and down carrie, when I landed it was around 39. something, but in the city it was 42 ish. There are many differently named exchange houses, but most, including myself, used TT exchange that always offered a slightly higher price.

Then we have the Lady boys. It is rare that the lady boys work in the ''straight'' bars, I think that this is because they tend to attract more attention from the male tourists, so tend to get far more lady drinks bought them. There are quite a few Lady boy bars, but its a brave man that sets a lone foot inside them. They are very up front in regards to their sexuality, thinking nothing of grabbing your meat and two veg in greeting as you enter, or as soon as you sit down with your first drink. Even with females I've never been a touchy, touchy, feely feely sort of person, so did not take to this sudden familiarity. I know its only meant in fun, but...

One thing that made me feel uncomfortable while walking round is the mindset of a lot of the male tourists, they consider it their right and privilege by just being in any bar that they have the god given right to maul and paw any of the bar girls at will. In their own countries they would be facing serious sexual assault charges, but they seem to assume that it comes with the girls job. Having spoken to a few bar girls they do not like it, but put up with it as part of their job, especially if that bar is a good earner. But its a thing that is difficult to control when you see the girls standing outside holding placards offering drinks promotions in next to near nothing covering their bodies and grabbing the hands and arms of passing trade in an attempt to coax them inside. Ninety five percent of the bars are fully open to the street, a few are within enclosed areas that you have to enter via a door guarded by bouncers, these being the places that ''extras'' are always on offer for the right price.

Lady boys however are a different matter. They all tend to display acts of over the top caressing and the 'smoothing' down of their bodies as they slowly parade themselves up and down along the bars frontage. They love to be touched and admired, and its difficult not to admire them as most are truly beautiful in their own right, but very easy to distinguish from the real thing, gender wise. They all have boobs, either via female growth hormone treatments and, or, breast implants. For those that are ultra slim with a typical young boys shapeless body mass, they either wear ''booty bags'' as they call them, padded briefs with two thick rump pads within the materiel, or have silicone implants. I have seen some of the most ridiculous sized manufactured rear ends known to mankind while walking past the lady boy bars. They tend to shout a lot as well for some unknown reason. The cost of the full sex change operation is around $20,000.

Some of the bars allow freelancers to ply their trade, but not many. These are the independent sex workers, of varying ages and looks with quite a few out of their sell by dates. The freelancers all seem to have the same opinion concerning Indian men and Arabs, they prefer not to have them as clients if given the choice. Apparently the Indian men have to much of a strong smell of curry about them and the Arab me like to 'damage the goods' too much. There are large Indian and Arab quarters within the central area that cater specifically for their needs. But these thousands of bars help generate $millions in tourist revenues each year.
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Post by Ruby Slippers » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:56 am

Thailand has never appealed to me as a holiday destination and your descriptions, Dusak, make it appeal even less. I'm afraid my tongue would be bitten in two from trying to hold it! :xx

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Post by Dusak » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:20 pm

Ruby Slippers wrote:Thailand has never appealed to me as a holiday destination and your descriptions, Dusak, make it appeal even less. I'm afraid my tongue would be bitten in two from trying to hold it! :xx
Thailand has much more to offer than what I have written about Ruby Slippers, but I spent most of my time in and around the city this time. Next time I will be exploring the great out doors.
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Post by HEPZIBAH » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:00 pm

Dusak, your account of your trip to Thailand is making interesting reading. I hope you will be sharing more about it as time permits.

Rather like Ruby Slippers, I have never given Thailand a thought when it comes to choosing a holiday destination. Equally, what little I have seen on television, and now read in your reports, has not attracted me so far.

No doubt Thailand is a beautiful country, and has much to offer tourists that are not interested in sex industry aspect of it. I just need to see more about that and be convinced.
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Post by Brian Yare » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:34 pm

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Winged Isis wrote:Welcome back. Glad you had a good time.

It's always a good idea to take some broad-spectrum antibiotics with you, plus a script for more. Experienced travellers have these high on their packing list.
As a reasonably experienced traveller, I have to say that I have never had antibiotics high on my packing list. Even if I had thought about them, they are not a medication you buy over the counter in the UK and I know there is no way my GP would prescribe them for me on the off chance I may (or may not) need them on holiday.
It was the nurse at my annual copd check-up a few years ago that suggested I carry a supply of antibiotics and of steroids. My GP dispenses them without question. I tend to need the antibiotics soon after arriving in Luxor each winter as I either pick up a bug on the flight or on arrival.

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Post by A-Four » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:54 pm

Winged Isis wrote:Welcome back. Glad you had a good time.

It's always a good idea to take some broad-spectrum antibiotics with you, plus a script for more.
This is a most STUPID statement, the idea of 'broad-spectrum' relates to a set area ONLY.

IT MAYBE USEFUL FOR YOU TO RETURN TO YOUR USUAL USELESS HERBAL REMEDIES.

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