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Post by Major Thom »

I have just heard that a new Opera House is to be built in Luxor. That will be fantastic! to be able to see Aida, and acts like Il Divo and Carreras, I last saw Il Divo 7 years ago and paid 120GBP for a ticket, for the 3 of us it was 360GBP.

Maybe we could do with an attraction like this in Luxor, it will brings crowds of people to the City, and much enjoyment to local people.



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Major Thom wrote:I have just heard that a new Opera House is to be built in Luxor. That will be fantastic! to be able to see Aida, and acts like Il Divo and Carreras, I last saw Il Divo 7 years ago and paid 120GBP for a ticket, for the 3 of us it was 360GBP.

Maybe we could do with an attraction like this in Luxor, it will brings crowds of people to the City, and much enjoyment to local people.
What makes you think that the likes of Il Divo and Jose Carreras would perform in Luxor? I have never noticed them in the Cairo Opera House programme.

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One of the craziest proposals I've seen.......and there's been some stiff competition.

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newcastle wrote:One of the craziest proposals I've seen........
As far as I remember, it has to do with the Chinese connection.

I once saw a guest performance by the Beijing Opera in Copenhagen; it was spectacular, but not what we call opera.

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I think you will find that the idea of a Opera House some where in Luxor, stems from the recent visit by the President of China, and suspect it will part of other mentioned items of interest attached to what we know as a 'memorandum of understanding',........and most should know that by now what that means.

I suspect if this was to go ahead, it certainly would not be the type of opera most people from the West would appreciate. Many working class Chinese people enjoy a type of music drama, which in effect is similar to what is these days known as Beijing Opera. In a way it's similar to Gilbert & Sullivan, a sort of comic opera. It was highly favoured by the old Dowerger Empress Cixi, who often took part during royal performances.

By the time the Cultural Revolution came along, and the reign of Emperor Puyi was brought to an end, all such performances were discouraged. In the past fifteen years this type opera has been re-introduced and is performed throughout China in theatres similar to the Old Variety's Theatre in Leeds, Yorkshire.

Having sat through one of these performances, I assure you, you would not want to see another,.............but, perhaps great for the future tourism.
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I've been meaning to post on this since it was first announced but couldn't find the news link related to it. (OK, I admit I've not wasted any real time searching for it either!) I think the news was announced at the time of the Chinese visit and it is they who would be providing the money for it to be built. Who would take over the considerable running costs I have no idea.

An opera house in Luxor is a very grandiose idea. It could be good for the city, in as much as that it would possibly create another specialised form of tourism, just as the film festivals are doing, and putting Luxor on the map for a new audience. It would be of better value to the city if it also has an associated centre of learning for the arts - something along the lines of it's own ballet/dance and music academies; stage school to include not just acting but also the behind the scenes jobs such as set building etc.

On a more realistic note, I think Luxor has far greater needs in terms of education and employment, and more basic needs in terms of entertainment and the arts.
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When Aida was performed at Hatshepsuit for many years and they built the temporary 'bailey bridge down in Karnac even Sean Connery and his wife used to come dreaming he could play golf at the ha! International Luxor Golf Club (joke) it was great then, until the 'pric*s in suits decided to move it to Cairo,
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Although others on here may think I joke, I am sure this could be quite a success, if built.

The building itself will certainly not be like the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden or La Scala, Milan, but a simple theatre built within the new grounds around the area of Luxor Museum would be ideal, where coaches could bring and take away tourist without coming into direct contact with the locals.

Knowing these type of theatres in China, they are similar to the one in the U.K. I described, but with the addition of the fact that you sit and drink beer, while the entertainment is in progress, along with what I can only describe as hysterical laughter, start to finish, from the Chinese audience. True entertainment, and certainly would be bringing old fashioned working class entertainment, that the whole of Chinese society secretly enjoy.

Let's face it, Chinese people are highly cultured, but they certainly do love their 'slap-stick' comedy entertainment, and I certainly see this as a bonus for future tourism to Luxor,......being that most future tourists to Luxor will be Chinesse.

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Whilst the "love in " with the Chinese continues perhaps someone should have a word in someone's shell like and suggest an exchange of antiquities, send a few Terracotta Army men here for a short visit and the Egyptians could send a couple of mummies. That would bring the tourists.

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Timely! I have just seen this ...

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Set design for Act 1 tableau 2 ("Temple of Vulcan") of Verdi's opera Aida as first performed at the Cairo Opera House on 24 December 1871
By Philippe Chaperon (French1823–1907)
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carrie wrote:Whilst the "love in " with the Chinese continues perhaps someone should have a word in someone's shell like and suggest an exchange of antiquities, send a few Terracotta Army men here for a short visit and the Egyptians could send a couple of mummies. That would bring the tourists.
Even if the Chinese didn't read the news re Tut's beard, do you think they'd risk fragile terracotta being displayed in Luxor :lol:

Besides - and I'm with A-Four on this - the only tourists in Luxor will likely be Chinese......and they'd already have seen them, hundreds of them, back home. :cg

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A-Four wrote:Although others on here may think I joke, I am sure this could be quite a success, if built.

The building itself will certainly not be like the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden or La Scala, Milan, but a simple theatre built within the new grounds around the area of Luxor Museum would be ideal, where coaches could bring and take away tourist without coming into direct contact with the locals.

Knowing these type of theatres in China, they are similar to the one in the U.K. I described, but with the addition of the fact that you sit and drink beer, while the entertainment is in progress, along with what I can only describe as hysterical laughter, start to finish, from the Chinese audience. True entertainment, and certainly would be bringing old fashioned working class entertainment, that the whole of Chinese society secretly enjoy.

Let's face it, Chinese people are highly cultured, but they certainly do love their 'slap-stick' comedy entertainment, and I certainly see this as a bonus for future tourism to Luxor,......being that most future tourists to Luxor will be Chinesse.
I wonder what makes A-Four so certain about the style of building this Opera House will take (assuming the proposal actually does take form). You only have to look at the Opera Houses of Beijing and Cairo to know that both understand about theatre on a grand scale.

Beijing Opera House
http://www.theatrebeijing.com/theatres/ ... era_house/

Cairo Opera House
http://www.cairoopera.org/?lan=En
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As I have written above, I do not expect a opera house built in the conventional style, it would be a music hall\theatre type. It's performances would appeal to Chinese people only. Therefore, I expect like the one I attended in Xian, Chinese visitors there had already paid to attend this venue as part of their itinerary, being that they were also tourists to Xian like myself. I am certain I paid around ¥100, which was around £10. Chinese people, I remember paid much less.

The average Chinese person, like Europeans do not attend opera performances, however, such shows that at night attract tourists to places like Blackpool, Brighton, Bournemouth,......and dare I say it Margate do.

The reason why I suggested a place near Luxor Museum is because Chinese people do not have much interest in beach holidays, though they love life on river banks, especially those that have a promenade similar to that, which now is in place at the position I have suggested.

As for the bill for the running cost for any such grand opera house built in Luxor, would be placed at the door of Luxor City Council, and anyone seeking such information should have a look at the annual running cost of the Bijing Opera House.

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There is a perfectly good opera house here on the West Bank, built by Hassan Fathy* with a few bob spent it could be up and running in a couple of months.
It's perfect but if your thinking of people like Carreras ect you'd need min 2000 capacity
easier and far more interesting to use Hatshepsuit.
But if your 'angling for money then the best is often not used.... :cool:
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My dear Dr,

Yer know, your knowledge of yer back ally there, is coming on leaps and bounds these days,............no seriously, it really is. :wi .

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carrie wrote:Whilst the "love in " with the Chinese continues perhaps someone should have a word in someone's shell like and suggest an exchange of antiquities, send a few Terracotta Army men here for a short visit and the Egyptians could send a couple of mummies. That would bring the tourists.

Carrie make a valid point here, in my opinion. I visited an exhibition of the Terracotta Army at the British Museum a few years ago, though having seen the original 'set up', I was not really impressed. As we all know such exhibitions are to encourage tourism, but I believe such a show in Luxor would hardly encourage your average Luxor people to visit China.

Having said that, at this time it would be an ideal opportunity to send an exhibition to China, of some of the great treasures, including many of the important items of the Tutankhamun collection that at present, are boxed away awaiting the opening of The (illusive) Grand Egyptian Museum in Giza.

........though yet again, the word dithering comes to mind.

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I heard today that Awamaya is going to be a favoured place.

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An Opera House in Luxor? When it doesn't even have a regular cinema or theatre? Surely somebody is putting the cart before the horse.

Luxor is a minor city in a backward country. Maybe a multifunction hall that could serve all three purposes and seat a couple of thousand might be appropriate, but not a dedicated Opera House used only a couple of times a year.

Just my 2 piasters worth.

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Luxor has a twin cinema on station St.
A fully equipped theatre/cinema/conference hall towards Karnack.
A fully equipped theatre/cinema/conference hall cultural centre towards the bridge.
With the exception of the twin cinema the others spend most of the time closed up.

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Quote:Luxor has a twin cinema on station St.

Surely you jest, not the old flea pit I passed on Thursday that hasn't open'd it's doors for well over 8 years... :cool:
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