Here is another film it looks quite good as 'those in the know ? want to ban it, before they have even seen it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13097336/? ... _sr_srsg_0
I noticed my pal Chris is in it, although it doesn't name his character.
Here is an AL Monitor article about it..
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... hiite.html'
Nb: "In accordance with Islamic tradition, during the making of this film no individual represented a Holy Personality. The performances of the Holy Personalities were achieved through a unique synthesis of actors, in-camera effects, lighting and visual effects.
It smacks of Nazi's burning books imho....
Ps: Just emailed Chris to ask why his character is not mentioned ?
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I doubt this film will see the light of day in Egypt or anywhere else in the Islamic world.
Depiction of the prophet or his close family is a no - no according to Muslim tradition. Remember the hoops they had to jump through to get that excellent film “The Messenger” past the Islamic censors.
In accordance with the beliefs of some Muslims regarding depictions of Muhammad, his face is not depicted on-screen nor is his voice heard. Because Islamic tradition generally forbids any direct representation of religious figures, the following disclaimer is displayed at the beginning of the film:
“The makers of this film honour the Islamic tradition which holds that the impersonation of the Prophet offends against the spirituality of his message. Therefore, the person of Mohammad will not be shown (or heard).“
The rule above was also extended to his wives, his daughters including Fatimah, his sons-in-law, and the first caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali ibn Talib his paternal cousin). This left Muhammad's uncle Hamza (Anthony Quinn) and his adopted son Zayd (Damien Thomas) as the central characters. During the battles of Badr and Uhud depicted in the movie, Hamza was in nominal command, even though the actual fighting was led by Muhammad.
Whenever Muhammad was present or very close by, his presence was indicated by light organ music. His words, as he spoke them, were repeated by someone else such as Hamza, Zayd or Bilal. When a scene called for him to be present, the action was filmed from his point of view. Others in the scene nodded to the unheard dialogue or moved with the camera as though moving with Muhammad.
The closest the film comes to a depiction of Muhammad or his immediate family are the view of Ali's famous two-pronged sword Zulfiqar during the battle scenes, a glimpse of a staff in the scenes at the Kaaba or in Medina, and Muhammad's camel, Qaswa.
It sounds as if this new film is also “ controversial” as to the history of the events surrounding Mohammad’s daughter......there are dozens of versions of what transpired, none of which are verifiable. So the film is bound to annoy many.
I tried to watch the film Gods of Egypt...screened on TV last night. Gave up after 5 minutes.
Now if ever a film should be banned, it’s Gods of Egypt. Beyond awful. Apparently, the studio lost $90 million on the production. No surprise there.
Depiction of the prophet or his close family is a no - no according to Muslim tradition. Remember the hoops they had to jump through to get that excellent film “The Messenger” past the Islamic censors.
In accordance with the beliefs of some Muslims regarding depictions of Muhammad, his face is not depicted on-screen nor is his voice heard. Because Islamic tradition generally forbids any direct representation of religious figures, the following disclaimer is displayed at the beginning of the film:
“The makers of this film honour the Islamic tradition which holds that the impersonation of the Prophet offends against the spirituality of his message. Therefore, the person of Mohammad will not be shown (or heard).“
The rule above was also extended to his wives, his daughters including Fatimah, his sons-in-law, and the first caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali ibn Talib his paternal cousin). This left Muhammad's uncle Hamza (Anthony Quinn) and his adopted son Zayd (Damien Thomas) as the central characters. During the battles of Badr and Uhud depicted in the movie, Hamza was in nominal command, even though the actual fighting was led by Muhammad.
Whenever Muhammad was present or very close by, his presence was indicated by light organ music. His words, as he spoke them, were repeated by someone else such as Hamza, Zayd or Bilal. When a scene called for him to be present, the action was filmed from his point of view. Others in the scene nodded to the unheard dialogue or moved with the camera as though moving with Muhammad.
The closest the film comes to a depiction of Muhammad or his immediate family are the view of Ali's famous two-pronged sword Zulfiqar during the battle scenes, a glimpse of a staff in the scenes at the Kaaba or in Medina, and Muhammad's camel, Qaswa.
It sounds as if this new film is also “ controversial” as to the history of the events surrounding Mohammad’s daughter......there are dozens of versions of what transpired, none of which are verifiable. So the film is bound to annoy many.
I tried to watch the film Gods of Egypt...screened on TV last night. Gave up after 5 minutes.
Now if ever a film should be banned, it’s Gods of Egypt. Beyond awful. Apparently, the studio lost $90 million on the production. No surprise there.
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A response from Chris:
"I play the character Hamza .
The production company involved thought it best to leave out the names of certain characters that could evoke a backlash from some of the Muslim community...
So there you have it from the Prophets pbuh Uncle....
"I play the character Hamza .
The production company involved thought it best to leave out the names of certain characters that could evoke a backlash from some of the Muslim community...
So there you have it from the Prophets pbuh Uncle....
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Another snippet from Chris..
"Yes, there is a prophet and a lady Fatima cast but the characters have been taken off the IMDb cast list...
"Yes, there is a prophet and a lady Fatima cast but the characters have been taken off the IMDb cast list...
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Can’t imagine what difference they think that will make
If the censors see Fatima or other prophets portrayed, it’ll be banned.
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