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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by A-Four » Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:28 pm

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AladdinSane wrote: I thought the docking bay was a very long way from Karnak and certainly a long distance from the centre of Luxor Town.
It is.
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by HEPZIBAH » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:45 pm

Are there any cruise boats, semi submerged or otherwise, berthed opposite Luxor Temple? I seem to think there were a few last time I was there, but that is 18 months or so back.
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by HEPZIBAH » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:47 pm

Are there any cruise boats, semi submerged or otherwise, berthed opposite Luxor Temple? I seem to think there were a few last time I was there, but that is 18 months or so back.
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by AladdinSane » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:15 pm

HighMonkeyMonk wrote:
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AladdinSane wrote:How much would a taxi cost from docking in bay to Karnak?
80Le one way
Not sure how often you get out, no disrespect intended!

It's half that by the way. One way to Karnak from anywhere in Luxor town including any docking bays along the Corniche is nowadays between 35-45LE depending on whether you wish to give the extra 10. I do it almost every day. Until the 2 recent petrol price hikes, it was on average 25-30LE absolute max one way to Karnak from anywhere in Luxor.

Taxi drivers have never questioned the price I pay, in fact originally they were the ones who told me the correct price locals (as in Egyptians) pay.

That sounds a reasonable price considering it's a long way from docking bay!
It's defininately 35-45LE?

How much would it be from docking bay to Mcdonalds near Luxor Temple?

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by Who2 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:54 pm

As someone once stated “If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it” attributed to U.S. financier J.P. Morgan... 8)
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by BENNU » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:20 pm

There are still a few boats a pleasant stroll from Mc Donalds and a reasonable taxi ride from Karnak. Most boats are docking near the bridge and some rather far south of the bridge. I thought we were talking about MS Commodore. Horus knows where it is, you cannot get a taxi from there to Karnak for the same price as a local will pay from downtown Luxor, of course.

My friends were going on a cruise with Royal Viking. They arrived in the evening and did not get near the city on their way from the airport but had an impression of Luxor seen from the plane before sunset. They wanted to meet a friend and me, but as they were leaving the following afternoon after a West Bank trip, we knew that there would be no time for them to experience Luxor or visit any of us, so we went to have dinner with them on board. I hope that they will be back to see Luxor one day.

It would have been easier for me to take a taxi across the bridge from West Bank, but my friend lives in Luxor, so we went with her regular taxi driver from the ferry to a place somewhere south of the bridge. It was a long ride, and with no discussion, we gave him 100 EGP each way, that was in April. I would have paid the same to Karnak and probably more today.

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by Dusak » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:59 pm

And that is what I was stating, from the far docking bay to Karnak, not from the Sheraton. I now pay, by choice, 100Le return from Karnak to anywhere to/from Luxor city. At still hovering around 24Le to the £, its peanuts for the likes of us, a decent fair for them.
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by AladdinSane » Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:40 pm

BENNU wrote:There are still a few boats a pleasant stroll from Mc Donalds and a reasonable taxi ride from Karnak. Most boats are docking near the bridge and some rather far south of the bridge. I thought we were talking about MS Commodore. Horus knows where it is, you cannot get a taxi from there to Karnak for the same price as a local will pay from downtown Luxor, of course.

My friends were going on a cruise with Royal Viking. They arrived in the evening and did not get near the city on their way from the airport but had an impression of Luxor seen from the plane before sunset. They wanted to meet a friend and me, but as they were leaving the following afternoon after a West Bank trip, we knew that there would be no time for them to experience Luxor or visit any of us, so we went to have dinner with them on board. I hope that they will be back to see Luxor one day.

It would have been easier for me to take a taxi across the bridge from West Bank, but my friend lives in Luxor, so we went with her regular taxi driver from the ferry to a place somewhere south of the bridge. It was a long ride, and with no discussion, we gave him 100 EGP each way, that was in April. I would have paid the same to Karnak and probably more today.
The Royal Viking? How bizare! That's the name of the boat we'll be holidaying on in early Autumn. We're staying in Hurghada for a week followed by a week's cruise - commencing in Luxor. The booking agency changed our hotel and also our boat - a long story! Did your friends make any comments regarding their stay on MS Royal Viking?

I did a cruise in 2007 - our boat docked in near The Shearaton. The following year I visited Luxor for a fortnight and got to know the city quite well due to my fondness for walking. I stayed at St Joseph's and often walked to the Market, Luxor Temple, the Ferry and Karnak. Unfortunately, my current partner cant walk very far so we 're going to rely on taxis when we visit Luxor. As far as I know - still waiting for holiday rep to send confirmation of itinery - we have Monday afternoon free and Tuesday morning will be visiting Karnak. Then back to Luxor for Saturday evening and all day Sunday (West Bank in the morning). We aren't othering with the excursions - I intend to escort my partner to Luxor/Karnak and Valley of the Kings via a taxi. Knowing where the MS Royal Viking will berth would be advantageous.

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by BENNU » Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:12 pm

It is an elegant boat, I have always been told that it is the best, so you will not be disappointed! My friends were happy, though they got caught in a terrible sandstorm in Esna and had to stay inside. I enjoyed my dinner, it was on the house, but I payed 75 EGP for a Stella in the bar.

For your West Bank trip, the location is fine, but it is south of the bridge, so a longer taxi ride downtown. Just accept the cost and enjoy the ride, you can look forward to a pleasant cruise, I am sure.

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by Dusak » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:08 am

All those years ago, no matter where you went, restaurants, bars or coffee houses, you were always guaranteed to see hoards of holiday reps. Can't remember the last time I saw one.
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by AladdinSane » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:01 pm

Dusak wrote:Its a long time since I last drove past this new docking area, but what I do remember quite a few years ago is large tracks of land suddenly getting a new lease of life with the construction of new landing berths, coffee houses, quite a few taxi ranks, large grassed areas with tables and chairs, various buildings, security blocks and what have you, plus a few new builds on the opposite side, mainly coffee houses and what looked like trashy tourist tat sellers. Has this new area been completed, or just left abandoned?
Is this what is known as the: 'Egyptian Experience Resort' ?

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by Dusak » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:45 pm

AladdinSane wrote:
Dusak wrote:Its a long time since I last drove past this new docking area, but what I do remember quite a few years ago is large tracks of land suddenly getting a new lease of life with the construction of new landing berths, coffee houses, quite a few taxi ranks, large grassed areas with tables and chairs, various buildings, security blocks and what have you, plus a few new builds on the opposite side, mainly coffee houses and what looked like trashy tourist tat sellers. Has this new area been completed, or just left abandoned?
Is this what is known as the: 'Egyptian Experience Resort' ?
No, just the new docking are. Egyptian experience is further on, an apartment complex. Long time since I heard anything about this place, they were having many problems, or the owners of the apartments were.
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by BENNU » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:06 pm

Dusak wrote:
AladdinSane wrote:
Is this what is known as the: 'Egyptian Experience Resort' ?
No, just the new docking are. Egyptian experience is further on, an apartment complex.
And Royal Viking is even further on, so you pass Egyptian Experience to get to and from Luxor.

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by A-Four » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:34 pm

BENNU wrote:
Dusak wrote:
AladdinSane wrote:
Is this what is known as the: 'Egyptian Experience Resort' ?
No, just the new docking are. Egyptian experience is further on, an apartment complex.
And Royal Viking is even further on, so you pass Egyptian Experience to get to and from Luxor.
Its some time now since I was in that area, but I do remember seeing docking areas on the south side of the bridge, but to think now they are as far away as beyond that Egypt Experience is crazy. Then again it is government policy to keep tourism out of Luxor, as it is in Essna, Edfu and Kom Ombo. I'm an sure also that boats would rather you have their expensive drinks, rather than an other much cheaper place.

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by Dusak » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:58 am

I was told around a year ago that two friends that went to visit some old neighbours of theirs visiting from the UK on an overnight docking that they had to pay 100Le for a Stella. Sounded a bit over the top even for this place.
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by Teddyboy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:46 am

These posting would make a stranger think that the (None) Egyptian Experience is miles and miles away from Luxor, whereas the truth is that even the turn off to the Viking dock is no more than 10 minutes beyond the turning for the Jolie Ville!

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by Who2 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:16 am

Ps: On the 'insurance accident on the Cruise Ship near the ferry It was finally taken away.
The last few tourists left onboard, still listening to the band play were happy to relocate to the 'meat factory hotel opposite.
I did go down have a 'shufti to see anything was salvageable but as usual the Cairo boys had stripped it bare... 8)
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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by A-Four » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:16 pm

Teddyboy wrote:These posting would make a stranger think that the (None) Egyptian Experience is miles and miles away from Luxor, whereas the truth is that even the turn off to the Viking dock is no more than 10 minutes beyond the turning for the Jolie Ville!
Let us try to understand something here, in most cases now, those who now take a cruise on the Nile and a further weeks stay in Hurgarda, will be told that Luxor is the most expensive city in the whole of Egypt, is that not true ? The tourist has probably already seen Luxor Temple and Karnack. After an exhausting day either W.B. or Luxor, the boat company will do their damnedest to keep tourist to their boat for a 101 reasons, from early departure next day to Luxor being a dangerous city.

Most tourist will eat a meal they have already paid for, rather than risk a meal somewhere in the city where the tourist will never return. Also from where as been suggest above, the journey will take at least 30 minutes, that is assuming the police check point at the bridge allows the journey, and especially after dark.

I truly think the old school on here have to finally accept mass tourism in Luxor is at an end. No hotel there reaches the insurance acceptance for package holidays, such as Thomas Cook etc.

I am certain that there must be still on this forum, past tourists who remember arriving at Dendera, Edfu, and certainly Kom Ombo, where you actually came into contact with every day life people there. Today if you arrive at Kom Ombo by cruise boat, you would be forgiven for thinking its population was less than 500 people, when I fact it's a wonderful town, with a fantastic non tourist market. You could once walk to the town in five minutes, now there is a ten foot wall to prevent you even thinking of the idea. Within a short time, luxor will be the same.

So what's next, dock the boat at Essna, get a cab from there, it's only an hour ?

Better still catch a train just twenty minutes walk east of Luxor bridge, local station though, one train every two hours, third class,......no lights on train, and wooden benches,........get real.

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by FarleyFlavors » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:03 am

AladdinSane wrote:That sounds a reasonable price considering it's a long way from docking bay!
It's defininately 35-45LE?
No, it definitely isn't 35-45LE from the southern docking bays to Karnak. I'd expect to pay what Bennu did...
BENNU wrote:It was a long ride, and with no discussion, we gave him 100 EGP each way, that was in April. I would have paid the same to Karnak and probably more today.
Also, don't expect to walk off the boat and hail a taxi. You'll need to prebook.

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Re: Docking In - Cruise Ships

Post by BENNU » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:58 am

A-Four wrote: ... Also from where as been suggest above, the journey will take at least 30 minutes, that is assuming the police check point at the bridge allows the journey, and especially after dark.

I am certain that there must be still on this forum, past tourists who remember arriving at Dendera, Edfu, and certainly Kom Ombo, where you actually came into contact with every day life people there.

Today if you arrive at Kom Ombo by cruise boat, you would be forgiven for thinking its population was less than 500 people, when I fact it's a wonderful town, with a fantastic non tourist market. You could once walk to the town in five minutes, now there is a ten foot wall to prevent you even thinking of the idea. Within a short time, luxor will be the same.

So what's next, dock the boat at Essna, get a cab from there, it's only an hour ?
I went on my first cruise a couple of years ago, but I do remember arriving by train to see the temples at Dendara, Edfu and Kom Ombo. Kom Ombo is among the friendliest places I have experienced in Egypt - behind the wall that is. I cannot say the same about Edfu, but you can get an impression of a culture if you give yourself a little time. My friends did not see Luxor at all.

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