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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Mad Dilys » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:03 am

Wow! :o

I'd like a piece of that action. ;)

Of course everything you read in the newspapers is true. :st


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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Bearded Brian » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:14 am

Why do some companies ask for your weight and some don't?

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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by chiddy » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:48 pm

heard yesterday from a local around the workers village that they- the Government(?) were considering employing 3 people on each flight

pilot
assistant pilot
fireman

not sure if true or not but a thought
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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Mad Dilys » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:27 pm

Bearded Brian wrote:Why do some companies ask for your weight and some don't?
Before the balloon takes off the pilot has to fill in a form called a Tech Log Sheet that lists among other things the fixed weight - Basket, Burners and envelope - plus weight of fuel and weight of pilot and passengers giving an "all up weight" or total weight. Obviously this weight gets less as the flight goes on and the fuel is used.

Each balloon has a maximum "all up weight" which is calculated according to a chart issued by the manufacturers taking into account the ambient temperature, the altitude and the air pressure. If the balloon is overloaded this may make handling difficult as it will be slow to respond to the pilot's controls and landing may be adversely affected.

If the balloon is too light, it may be severely affected by air currents so the balloon makes excessive re-action to the pilot's controls. Landing may be difficult as a sufficiently firm touchdown to ensure safety may not be possible. This is why a member or two of crew may be included at the discretion of the pilot who judges all the above factors in the light of conditions on the day.

Twenty years ago we asked everyone their weight at the time of booking, so we got very good at assessing people's weight. It was a task that required a great deal practice, tact, diplomacy and a tight lip. :st

It's my party trick in our house - the younger members get me to estimate a person's weight and then we weigh them. Sometimes I'm a kilo or two out but not very often. I'm very discrete though.

Since I was a farmer in another world and saw animals weighed at market every week I was used to weighing animals "by eye" and have kept the skill by constant practice. I did have a bit of hesitation when pounds gave way to kilos but now annoyingly I find it easier in kilos.
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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Mad Dilys » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:37 pm

chiddy wrote:heard yesterday from a local around the workers village that they- the Government(?) were considering employing 3 people on each flight

pilot
assistant pilot
fireman

not sure if true or not but a thought
We do often have two or even three pilots in the basket, in fact we had three on the day of the tragedy because of the weight - see answer to Brian.
I'd rather add pilots than crew any day. :up

They do not always wear their uniform though. When we were flying a lot of tourists we found that unless we make it clear some passengers think that one pilot is under instruction, even though obviously he isn't.
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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Winged Isis » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:46 pm

I have never been asked my weight for a flight! Thank God! :roll:
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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by LivinginLuxor » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:23 am

There's a fairly balanced article in Al-Ahram weekly about the possible resumption of flights.

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/News/1732/18 ... ties-.aspx
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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Brian Yare » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:35 pm

“Occupancy rates in Luxor hotels still stand at just over 30 per cent, the same as pre-accident figures,”

I am surprised at this figure. I would estimate the current occupancy at about 10% based only on observation and local gossip.

Similarly I question the loss to Luxor during the ban on flights. The figures quoted - number of flights per day, number of balloons in use, basket capacity, etc., seem to be based on pre-revolutionary figures rather than 2013 figures.

But I am not usually awake when the morning flights start so this is purely my own opinion.

Balloon flights are an optional extra, not the main or only reason for visiting Luxor IMHO. I do not see any reason for tourist numbers to drop significantly just because there are no balloon flights.

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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Isis*dancer » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:35 am

Winged Isis wrote:I have never been asked my weight for a flight! Thank God! :roll:
Which company did you fly with? Surprised that you were not asked your weight because it's on the sheet that they pass around for all clients to complete. The pilot needs to calculate even weights for each portion of the basket. I have been on 7 flights and have always been asked my weight.
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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Bearded Brian » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:00 pm

They probably add 10% to the weight shown to account for those that (accidently lol) underestimate their weight.

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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Mad Dilys » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:00 pm

Bearded Brian wrote:They probably add 10% to the weight shown to account for those that (accidently lol) underestimate their weight.
Just 10% Brian? :tk
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Re: Balloon crash in Luxor

Post by Bearded Brian » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:24 pm

Mad Dilys wrote:
Bearded Brian wrote:They probably add 10% to the weight shown to account for those that (accidently lol) underestimate their weight.
Just 10% Brian? :tk
I was being kind :D

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